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2011
Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
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Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
So do we have to watch a 17 minute vid to hear what the guy said?
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2011
Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
 Originally Posted by tontoz
The headline is priceless "Delta caused by quakccines"
Problem is that the Delta variant was first identified in December 2020, before the vaccine rollout.

So you are going to disregard her testimony because of the headline of the video?
that makes sense.
let's get some stats from a government official... since we all love the government so much.
https://beforeitsnews.com/opinion-co...s-3597096.html
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2011
Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
Natural causes now blamed for doctor who died two weeks after Pfizer vaccine
https://nypost.com/2021/04/08/natura...fizer-vaccine/
A Miami Beach doctor who died 16 days after getting a Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine in January appears to have expired from natural causes, officials say.
An autopsy on Dr. Gregory Michael, 56, has concluded he died from a complications of immune thrombocytopenia, a condition that prevents blood from clotting and which can cause internal bleeding.
There is no medical certainty that the shot had anything to do with the condition, the Florida Department of Health has determined in a joint investigation with the CDC, which reviewed samples from the autopsy.

Natural Causes... sure. I believe it.
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Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
 Originally Posted by Doomsday Dallas
Funny that clip is only a minute long and doesn't mention unvaccinated people at all. No agenda there 
Here is the full hour long vid:
. “We know that the overwhelming majority – the overwhelming majority – of the people that are hospitalized in the ICUs, our deaths; they’re unvaccinated,” Gov. Justice said. “You have got to get vaccinated. There is nothing your life that is as important as getting yourself vaccinated.”
Can't imagine why the anti vaxers left that part out.

They are actually giving out prizes for people to get vaccinated at the 19:30 mark.

https://governor.wv.gov/News/press-r...accinated.aspx
Last edited by tontoz; 09-06-2021 at 04:11 PM.
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Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
 Originally Posted by tontoz
Funny that clip is only a minute long and doesn't mention unvaccinated people at all. No agenda there
Here is the full hour long vid:
Can't imagine why the anti vaxers left that part out.
They are actually giving out prizes for people to get vaccinated.
https://governor.wv.gov/News/press-r...accinated.aspx
Why do u care though? Why do u care if i or anyone dosn't want to take the vaccine? More and more studies are coming out on how transmitting isn't effected much my vaccinations so the that's not a goid argument. Plus people have been putting others at risk forever and it's never been a problem before. Everytime u jump in your car your endangering others. Everytime u go anywhere with the flu your endangering others. Life is full of risks to our life and health but we choose everyday to accept them because that's life. The coronavirus should be no different. If you want to risk it like everything else that's fine don't get the vaccine or wear masks or wash your hands. If don't want to risk it do the opposite. It shouldn't be a big deal.
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Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
 Originally Posted by Bronbron23
Why do u care though? Why do u care if i or anyone dosn't want to take the vaccine? More and more studies are coming out on how transmitting isn't effected much my vaccinations so the that's not a goid argument. Plus people have been putting others at risk forever and it's never been a problem before. Everytime u jump in your car your endangering others. Everytime u go anywhere with the flu your endangering others. Life is full of risks to our life and health but we choose everyday to accept them because that's life. The coronavirus should be no different. If you want to risk it like everything else that's fine don't get the vaccine or wear masks or wash your hands. If don't want to risk it do the opposite. It shouldn't be a big deal.
I am not the one who brought up the vid in the first place. It just shows how the antivaxers try to twist reality.
Transmission is absolutely less for.people that are vaccinated. It isn't arguable any more.
Why do I care? Because these anti vax nuts are prolonging the pandemic. Their hospital stays are a drain on the economy not to mention businesses that depend.on foot traffic.
Are you volunteering to pay for the hospital stays of the unvaccinated? Why don't you start a GoFundMe page for the antivaxers to pay for their hospital stays. Let's see them put their money where their mouth is.
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Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
 Originally Posted by tontoz
I am not the one who brought up the vid in the first place. It just shows how the antivaxers try to twist reality.
Transmission is absolutely less for.people that are vaccinated. It isn't arguable any more.
Why do I care? Because these anti vax nuts are prolonging the pandemic. Their hospital stays are a drain on the economy not to mention businesses that depend.on foot traffic.
Are you volunteering to pay for the hospital stays of the unvaccinated? Why don't you start a GoFundMe page for the antivaxers to pay for their hospital stays. Let's see them put their money where their mouth is.
The anti vaxxers aren't prolonging anything. Like the flu covid is never going away. It's gonna be something we have to learn to live with like the flu and car accidents.
As far the drain on hospitals there's an easy answer. If u don't have the vaccine u go to the back of the line if you need to be treated and the hospital is overwhelmed.
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09-06-2021, 04:38 PM
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Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
 Originally Posted by Bronbron23
The anti vaxxers aren't prolonging anything. Like the flu covid is never going away. It's gonna be something we have to learn to live with like the flu and car accidents.
As far the drain on hospitals there's an easy answer. If u don't have the vaccine u go to the back of the line if you need to be treated and the hospital is overwhelmed.
I agree with that and it is happening in Australia, but not here. I saw a story the other day about a vet that died from a gallstone because they didn't have an available ICU bed.
That vid brings up hospital staffing. Apparently WV is losing healthcare workers to other states that can pay more.
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09-06-2021, 04:50 PM
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2011
Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
 Originally Posted by tontoz
Funny that clip is only a minute long and doesn't mention unvaccinated people at all. No agenda there 
It doesn't have to...
Here is the title of the thread: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shit
So here we have 26% increase in positive cases among those that have been vaccinated....
21% increase in hospitalization of the fully vaccinated
25% increase in death of the fully vaccinated...
I guess the vaccine seems to be working great by your standards... not by mine.
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09-06-2021, 04:57 PM
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2011
Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi

How long does protection from the vaccines last?
Answer: We don't have that data yet.
Tontoz will be back here next year defending the need for Covid Pills.
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09-06-2021, 05:01 PM
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2011
Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
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09-06-2021, 05:02 PM
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Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
 Originally Posted by tontoz
I agree with that and it is happening in Australia, but not here. I saw a story the other day about a vet that died from a gallstone because they didn't have an available ICU bed.
That vid brings up hospital staffing. Apparently WV is losing healthcare workers to other states that can pay more.
Well gallstones can be a result of a bad diet so maybe he died because he was unhealthy. See even that can get tricky. Should someone who treats their body like crap get preferences over non vaxxers if they need treatment?
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09-06-2021, 05:07 PM
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Re: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shi
 Originally Posted by Doomsday Dallas
It doesn't have to...
Here is the title of the thread: Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shit
So here we have 26% increase in positive cases among those that have been vaccinated....
21% increase in hospitalization of the fully vaccinated
25% increase in death of the fully vaccinated...
I guess the vaccine seems to be working great by your standards... not by mine.
The problem in those numbers is that they are comparing vaccinated people to each other, not to unvaccinated people but you are too brainwashed to notice that.
He is literally begging people to get vaccinated because there are so many unvaccinated people in their hospitals. WV is not a wealthy state and they are literally giving away prizes for people to.get vaccinated.
Pretty sobering vid. It is pretty bad there, certainly a lot worse than where I live in MD.
At the 54 minute mark where he addeesses the elephant in the room.
What if you had a child or parent that was injured or sick but they couldn't get care because the hospital was filled with unvaccinated COVID patients?
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