Anyone believe Covid is very serious but at same time the vaccine ain't doing shit?

[Bronbron23]

Interesting that you bring up driving. In order to drive a car legally you need a license, insurance, registration and you have to wear a seat belt. You can be ticketed for not wearing it.

Not to mention all the traffic signs and lights

True but I'm not forced to get any of that. I can take other means of transportation ane enjoy the same shit everyone else does who has a car. This isn't the case with covid and vaccines

[tontoz]

True but I'm not forced to get any of that. I can take other means of transportation ane enjoy the same shit everyone else does who has a car. This isn't the case with covid and vaccines

That certainly isn't the case where I live, even moreso prior to COVID and Uber.

20 years from now I expect car ownership to be pretty much obsolete though.

[Doomsday Dallas]

The vaccine ain't doing shit?

Well... looks like those vaccines ain't doing $hit for Oscar De La Hoya

[tontoz]

Well... looks like those vaccines ain't doing $hit for Oscar De La Hoya

Actually the vaccine may well be helping him get through this. Being a drug and alcohol abuser (which he's admitted) probably didnt help his immune system.

[Bronbron23]

That certainly isn't the case where I live, even moreso prior to COVID and Uber.

20 years from now I expect car ownership to be pretty much obsolete though.

20 years from now we might all be in trouble. The world is a messed up place and it's only getting worse

[Axe]

Actually the vaccine may well be helping him get through this. Being a drug and alcohol abuser (which he's admitted) probably didnt help his immune system.

Idk why but magats do have a hard time believing this.

[8Ball]

I've been asking basic followup questions to tontoz's claims as well as regarding the benefits of forced vaccination ITT and other threads.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14431187
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14432299
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/sho...1#post14432305

#Crickets

Follow up questions ? Just you asking what the benefit of forced vaccinations are numbers wise.


We show you 80%+ of hospitalizations are amongst unvaccinated.

Anymore followup questions needed to understand basic facts?

[Bronbron23]

Follow up questions ? Just you asking what the benefit of forced vaccinations are numbers wise.


We show you 80%+ of hospitalizations are amongst unvaccinated.

Anymore followup questions needed to understand basic facts?

Problem with that is i can show you data that shows the opposite. Alot of the new studies are showing that transmission is no different for vaxxers. There's also data coming out of Isreal showing that natural antibodies are way more effective than the vaccine. This is something the media and cdc has been lying about since this shit started. Common sense and factual data suggests that natural immunity is better and vaccines don't effect transmission but the majority has allowed fear Mongoring by the cdc and media to make them ignore facts and common sense.

The other part to this which is shameful and dangerous is the cdc and media denying this fact is giving millions of vaccines to people who have the antibodies and don't need it instead of giving it to other countries and people around the world that don't have antibodies and need it.

It's a shit show dude. That's why so many people distrust the cdc and media when it comes to the vaccine. Their incompetence or just flat out lying is literally killing people.

[tontoz]

Pretty much sums everything up.

This was an obvious bait thread, but the number of people who ACTUALLY hold the views Mr. 8ball is trolling with... is pretty wild stuff.

Lot of really high strung folks out there motivated by insecurity and neurosis. And the corporate-political-media conglomerate can keep them under thumb with remarkable ease.

Not a great look for humanity. But a true portrait it is. Warts and all.

Right now the natural immunity vs vaccine debate is nothing but a side show. The real problem is all the unvaccinated people filling up our hospitals.

We've got a conservative governor in WV who is against mask mandates literally begging people to get vaccinated because there are so many unvaccinated people in his hospitals. The funny part is that it was one of the antivaxers here who originally called attention to the governor, taking a one minute clip out of context while completely ignoring the other hour of the press conference.

At the 19:30 mark he announced they are giving out prizes for people to get vaccinated.

[FultzNationRISE]

Right now the natural immunity vs vaccine debate is nothing but a side show. The real problem is all the unvaccinated people filling up our hospitals.

We've got a conservative governor in WV who is against mask mandates literally begging people to get vaccinated because there are so many unvaccinated people in his hospitals. The funny part is that it was one of the antivaxers here who originally called attention to the governor, taking a one minute clip out of context while completely ignoring the other hour of the press conference.

At the 19:30 mark he announced they are giving out prizes for people to get vaccinated.

You remember GOP house speaker John Boehener?

He was a staunch opponent of medical marijuana use. That is, until...

Acreage Holdings, which describes itself as "one of the nation's largest, multi-state actively-managed cannabis corporations," announced Wednesday that the former U.S. representative from Ohio has joined its board of advisors, and will join the board of directors once it is formed.

Soon as he was offered a place on the board of a profitable marijuana company, suddenly he changed his tune. Imagine that!


“A conservative governor” has nothing to do with medicine and common sense. Politicians are self interested and duplicitous regardless of party. He could have any number of motivations and his public opinion is meaningless. I dont make decisions based on whether the source is red or blue.

Pointing to anything a politician does or says has no bearing on common sense analysis of an issue.

[tontoz]

You remember GOP house speaker John Boehener?

He was a staunch opponent of medical marijuana use. That is, until...




Soon as he was offered a place on the board of a profitable marijuana company, suddenly he changed his tune. Imagine that!


“A conservative governor” has nothing to do with medicine and common sense. Politicians are self interested and duplicitous regardless of party. He could have any number of motivations and his public opinion is meaningless. I dont make decisions based on whether the source is red or blue.

Pointing to anything a politician does or says has no bearing on common sense analysis of an issue.

Right, a politician who is against mask mandates, and even says that during the vid, is just making up the hospital figures in his state.

[FultzNationRISE]

Right, a politician who is against mask mandates, and even says that during the vid, is just making up the hospital figures in his state.

Drug companies dont profit from mask mandates

[tontoz]

Drug companies dont profit from mask mandates

So you think he is fabricating the hospital numbers of his state in a live press conference to cater to the drug companies? Wow

I guess some people will just see what they want to see.

[FultzNationRISE]

So you think he is fabricating the hospital numbers of his state in a live press conference to cater to the drug companies? Wow

I guess some people will just see what they want to see.

Youre making irrelevant arguments.

I said nothing partisan in the post you initially responded to, yet your immediate reaction was to claim “a conservative governor said x,y, and z!!!!! Aha!!!” It’s clear your opinions are easily colored by a partisan view of government.

I pointed out that politicians can have ulterior motives and youre insisting “but hes conservative!” You said something about mask mandates and hospitals, I pointed out that opposing the mask mandates is irrelevant. You transformed that into an assertion I didnt make that hes lying about hospital statistics.

Youre all over the place and it’s coming off shrill and defensive.

I really dont care how you want to personally approach masks, vaccines, covid, political orders, etc. I wish you would grant others the same courtesy. Perhaps in real life you do, but your innumerable posts splattered on every page of this topic across multiple threads give me the impression youve got an “enforcer” mentality when it comes to your views of how everyone should respond to this issue.

Anyway, you may carry on. For my end Ill leave it at what Ive already said.

[FultzNationRISE]

Btw Ill just lastly point out that altho it’s not scientific, there’s a respected tradition of proverbial wisdom in politics that says:

“If rrr3 is on your side... youre probably wrong.”


Just something to keep in mind.