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    Default Re: Wizards jordon was worse than nearly any all-time great who played until his late

    Quote Originally Posted by theman93 View Post
    And after Hamilton, Lebron's supporting cast was significantly better. Not to mention that Lebron himself is supposed to be significantly better than Jordan. Yet he only won 34 games to MJ's 37?
    HOW? Who on that team wasn't dogshit? Malik Monk I guess? He had an equivalent season to what Chris Whitney did. Everyone else was a pretty clear net negative besides maybe Austin Reaves and Stanley Johnson who are complete scrubs on offense and just defensive hustle players every team has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theman93 View Post
    And after Hamilton, Lebron's supporting cast was significantly better. Hell, I could make the argument Westbrook was better than or equal to Hamilton that year. Not to mention that Lebron himself is supposed to be significantly better than Jordan. Yet he only won 34 games to MJ's 37?
    Not really. He had Prime Westbrook who won league mvp an is the all time leader in triple doubles. It's like having prime Oscar Robertson on your team. He also had peak Anthony Davis, Dwight Howard a 3x DPOY, Melo.

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    Default Re: Wizards jordon was worse than nearly any all-time great who played until his late

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    HOW? Who on that team wasn't dogshit? Malik Monk I guess? He had an equivalent season to what Chris Whitney did. Everyone else was a pretty clear net negative besides maybe Austin Reaves and Stanley Johnson who are complete scrubs on offense and just defensive hustle players every team has.
    And who on MJ's team wasn't dogshit?

    I would take Westbrook, Monk and Carmelo over any of the next guys on the 02 Wizards after Hamilton. And Westbrook and Hamilton may as well be equals. PLUS Lebron had AD for half of the season. The rest are toss ups. Let's not act like the 02 Wizards were anything more than a bunch of certified scrubs.
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    Default Re: Wizards jordon was worse than nearly any all-time great who played until his late

    Quote Originally Posted by theman93 View Post
    And who on MJ's team wasn't dogshit?

    I would take Westbrook, Monk and Carmelo over any of the next guys on the 02 Wizards after Hamilton. And Westbrook and Hamilton may as well be equals. The rest are toss ups. Let's not act like the 02 Wizards weren't anything more than a bunch of certified scrubs.
    I'd take Hamilton over Westbrick any day.

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    Default Re: Wizards jordon was worse than nearly any all-time great who played until his late

    Imagine bragging about a 30-30 record in a historically weak conference.

    Individually, LeBron blew Wizards MJ out of the water last season.

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    Imagine bragging about a 30-30 record in a historically weak conference.

    Individually, LeBron blew Wizards MJ out of the water last season.
    there's no minimum game limit I take it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theman93 View Post
    And who on MJ's team wasn't dogshit?

    I would take Westbrook, Monk and Carmelo over any of the next guys on the 02 Wizards after Hamilton.
    2022 Melo & Westbrook, lol really? Both are net negatives at this point of their careers. Good riddance. 2022 Melo was one of the worst defenders I've ever seen, no lie.

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    Default Re: Wizards jordon was worse than nearly any all-time great who played until his late

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    2022 Melo & Westbrook, lol really? Both are net negatives at this point of their careers. Good riddance. 2022 Melo was one of the worst defenders I've ever seen, no lie.
    Yeah, really. Are you going to act like Chris Whitney, Popeye Jones, Jahidi White and the rest of those scrubs were net positives? Lmaooooooo

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    Default Re: Wizards jordon was worse than nearly any all-time great who played until his late

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    Imagine bragging about a 30-30 record in a historically weak conference.

    Individually, LeBron blew Wizards MJ out of the water last season.
    2022 Lebron is so significantly better than old decrepit 2002 Wizards MJ that he went 26-31 to MJ's 30-30 with a better roster.

    The 2022 Western Conference teams averaged a whole whopping 1.4 more wins per game than the historically all-time weak 2002 Eastern Conference teams. Very impressive.

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    Default Re: Wizards jordon was worse than nearly any all-time great who played until his late

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers View Post
    2022 Melo & Westbrook, lol really? Both are net negatives at this point of their careers. Good riddance. 2022 Melo was one of the worst defenders I've ever seen, no lie.
    2022 Melo won a scoring title, 2022 Westbrook already had won a league mvp and is the all time leader in triple doubles. Also Dwight Howard who beat Lebron without HCA is a 3x DPOY.

    https://www.basketball-reference.com...ason_odds.html (Lakers 2nd)

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    Default Re: Wizards jordon was worse than nearly any all-time great who played until his late

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    I'd take Hamilton over Westbrick any day.
    What about AD?

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    Default Re: Wizards jordon was worse than nearly any all-time great who played until his late

    Quote Originally Posted by theman93 View Post
    And who on MJ's team wasn't dogshit?

    I would take Westbrook, Monk and Carmelo over any of the next guys on the 02 Wizards after Hamilton. And Westbrook and Hamilton may as well be equals. PLUS Lebron had AD for half of the season. The rest are toss ups. Let's not act like the 02 Wizards were anything more than a bunch of certified scrubs.


    Ok, you're actually retarded, I didn't realize what I was dealing with. Westbrook was arguably the least valuable player in the NBA last year. Carmelo is maybe the worst defender in the league, he's a big negative most of the time. How did LeBron have AD for half the season when LeBron missed a lot of time too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    I'd take Hamilton over Westbrick any day.
    Westbrook won league mvp and is the all time leader in triple doubles.

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    Default Re: Wizards jordon was worse than nearly any all-time great who played until his late

    Quote Originally Posted by theman93 View Post
    2022 Lebron is so significantly better than old decrepit 2002 Wizards MJ that he went 26-31 to MJ's 30-30 with a better roster.

    The 2022 Western Conference teams averaged a whole whopping 1.4 more wins per game than the historically all-time weak 2002 Eastern Conference teams. Very impressive.
    MJ had a 47 TS% in '02 when the league average was 52%. Not to mention he wasn't much of a playmaker, he was nothing more than a chucker on many nights.

    Compare that to LeBron who averaged 30 points on 62 TS% and gave you his usual playmaking skills.

    It isn't even close to be honest.

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