Wizards jordon was worse than nearly any all-time great who played until his late 30s

[theman93]

He had a 1.8 BPM. No one the Lakers besides LeBron, Davis or Sekou Doumboya (who played 16 total minutes) even had a 0.0 BPM, everyone else was negative

Are you acting like Malik Monk wasn't considered a complete ****ing scrub before he played with LeBron? Dude couldn't get time on the ****ing Hornets

Are you acting like the 2002 Wizards weren't also complete scrubs?

[RRR3]

2022 Westbrick had a higher TS% than Hamilton did in 02. Hamilton also had a worse DBPM than 2022 Westbrick. Remind me how great Hamilton was again in 02? Rofllllllllllllll

Did he have a worse TS% relative to the league average? Not even close he was only a little below league average while Westbrook was massively below league average. DPBM has been criticized by its own creators as inaccurate, and both Hamilton and Whitney good OBPMs.

[Axe]

Coach thinking that 33 y.o. WB is the same as prime WB is hilarious af.

[1987_Lakers]

2022 Westbrick had a higher TS% than Hamilton did in 02. Hamilton also had a worse DBPM than 2022 Westbrick. Remind me how great Hamilton was again in 02? Rofllllllllllllll

Only one problem there, Westbrook had a 51.2 TS%, when league average TS% was 56.6

Rip had a 51.1 TS% when league average was 52%.

So Rip was around league average while Westbrook was well below league average.

Try again.

[RRR3]

Are you acting like the 2002 Wizards weren't also complete scrubs?

Like 1987 said, "By your logic, '09 & '10 LeBron > '88 & '89 MJ since LeBron led his team to a better record without having much of a cast."

The concept of team record completely reflecting a player's value is one championed by feeble minded people.

[RRR3]

Only one problem there, Westbrook had a 51.2 TS%, when league average TS% was 56.6

Rip had a 51.1 TS% when league average was 52%.

So Rip was around league average while Westbrook was well below league average.

Try again.

He's extremely dimwitted.

[theman93]

Bad fits. Westbrook ruined the team. Vogel was a terrible offensive coach, Melo was atrocious on defense etc.

By your logic, '09 & '10 LeBron > '88 & '89 MJ since LeBron led his team to a better record without having much of a cast.

Doug Collins was also not a good coach. The 02 Wizards also were bad fits. They also had atrocious defenders. Every excuse for Lebron in 2022 Jordan has in 2002.

As for 09/10 Lebron vs 88/89 MJ, they were close. However 02 MJ and 22 Lebron allegedly aren't close at all. Yet somehow MJ did more with less while being a worse player.

[kawhileonard2]

Like 1987 said, "By your logic, '09 & '10 LeBron > '88 & '89 MJ since LeBron led his team to a better record without having much of a cast."

The concept of team record completely reflecting a player's value is one championed by feeble minded people.

Lebron had Ben Wallace who won as the only allstar on the team that won it all and was a 3x DPOY. He had Shaq who had 3x finals mvp's and a league mvp. Both times lost with HCA.

MJ hadn't had someone who won league mvp or finals mvp or DPOY.

[Axe]

Doug Collins was also not a good coach.

Lmao maybe you should try telling 3ball that.

[RRR3]

Doug Collins was also not a good coach. The 02 Wizards also were bad fits. They also had atrocious defenders. Every excuse for Lebron in 2022 Jordan has in 2002.

As for 09/10 Lebron vs 88/89 MJ, they were close. However 02 MJ and 22 Lebron allegedly aren't close at all. Yet somehow MJ did more with less while being a worse player.

They're close even though LeBron won way more games with a similar cast? By your own logic LeBron was easily better.

[Bawkish]

That version of MJ couldn't even beat a random dude in 1 on 1.



LeBron in his exhibition game was dropping 40+ vs much better players than John Rogers.

LMAO pulling desperation card like this is funny as sh*t

[Xiao Yao You]

2022 Westbrick had a higher TS% than Hamilton did in 02. Hamilton also had a worse DBPM than 2022 Westbrick. Remind me how great Hamilton was again in 02? Rofllllllllllllll

wonderful! I wouldn't want him on my team anyway. The fact that anyone thought he was a good idea on the Lakers is hilarious! Who said Hamilton was great?

[1987_Lakers]

Doug Collins was also not a good coach. The 02 Wizards also were bad fits. They also had atrocious defenders. Every excuse for Lebron in 2022 Jordan has in 2002.

As for 09/10 Lebron vs 88/89 MJ, they were close. However 02 MJ and 22 Lebron allegedly aren't close at all. Yet somehow MJ did more with less while being a worse player.

No, by your logic LeBron was clearly superior.

And next time adjust for league average TS% if you want to compare that stat across eras without looking clueless.

You're welcome

[kawhileonard2]

Lebron had Ben Wallace who won as the only allstar on the team that won it all and was a 3x DPOY. He had Shaq who had 3x finals mvp's and a league mvp. Both times lost with HCA.

MJ hadn't had someone who won league mvp or finals mvp or DPOY nor HCA.

[RRR3]

No, by your logic LeBron was clearly superior.

And next time adjust for league average TS% if you want to compare that stat across eras without looking clueless.

You're welcome

Haters are generally incapable of consistency.