Lebron James - 4 FMVPs - 2nd best Winner of all time

[StrongLurk]

Lebron cemented himself as the second best player of all time YEARS ago.

Bron is the second best winner of all time and is still playing at an ALL-NBA level which is incredible.

[Duffy Pratt]

Russell, Havlicek, Kareem, MJ, Mikan, Magic, Kobe, Duncan.

LeBron is second best after all of them, tied with Shaq, and Steph. That is taking into account number of championships with being the best on team at least once.

Apparently, you define the best “winner” as involving something other than winning. Please stop.

[SATAN]

NBA fans are morons.

[warriorfan]

when accounting for length of career plus team hops it’s just not very impressive

[FultzNationRISE]

Good stuff OP. You just moved up a notch in my book.

Youre now at notch 1.


Edit: Wait a minute. SECOND BEST???

[3ba11]

when accounting for length of career plus team hops it’s just not very impressive

boom

[RogueBorg]

Lebron is the only top 10 player with a losing Finals record.

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebron is the only top 10 player with a losing Finals record.

He’s also only the 2nd player to win 4 FMVP.

Wilt has a losing record too btw.

[StrongLurk]

when accounting for length of career plus team hops it’s just not very impressive

Plenty of players left their original team or played on stacked teams. Hell, we even have multiple people in the top ten who were TEAMMATES (Kareem/Magic, Shaq/Kobe).

Yet none of them were good enough to win four finals MVPs. Every player in the modern NBA era had a chance to get 4, and only MJ/Lebron hit that mark.

[r15mohd]

boom

will you remove Kobe from your top 5 due to length of career then?

[StrongLurk]

2nd...best...winner. Reached the very top of the mountain 4 times.

[tpols]

Lebrons talent is GOAT but he choked and bailed waaay too many times. He's 2 single shots away from being 2/10 in The Finals.

Guys like MJ and Kobe were simply more skilled and far more ruthless.

[SouBeachTalents]

Lebrons talent is GOAT but he choked and bailed waaay too many times. He's 2 single shots away from being 2/10 in The Finals.

Guys like MJ and Kobe were simply more skilled and far more ruthless.

Kobe was more fearless than LeBron, but he was mediocre in the Finals, awful when facing elimination, had his teammates hit all the big shots, and was 2nd option for most of his titles. His actual on court performance frankly doesn't come close to warranting the Jordan like clutch reputation that he has, and he should really stop being lumped in with Jordan. One's the consensus GOAT, the other is fringe top 10.

[StrongLurk]

Lebrons talent is GOAT but he choked and bailed waaay too many times. He's 2 single shots away from being 2/10 in The Finals.

Guys like MJ and Kobe were simply more skilled and far more ruthless.

Random words and excuses from Tpols.

Bron has 4 FMVPs to his name. Rings alone are not sufficient when discussing the best of the best (i.e top 20 of all time). You need the FMVP with the ring to reach the top of the mountain. No excuses, just get it done.

[j3lademaster]

Kobe was more fearless than LeBron, but he was mediocre in the Finals, awful when facing elimination, had his teammates hit all the big shots, and was 2nd option for most of his titles. His actual on court performance frankly doesn't come close to warranting the Jordan like clutch reputation that he has, and he should really stop being lumped in with Jordan. One's the consensus GOAT, the other is fringe top 10.

One is a perennial choker, while the other is a clutch god

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