Did the Heatles underachieve?

[RRR3]

What part of "one point playoff game" do you not understand? Rondo generally performed well in the playoffs whereas Simmons has been a definite failure. Rondo's team not impressing offensively while still posting winning records when his best teammates were all declining doesn't make him the most overrated player ever. The hyperbole can't be justified.

Rondo scored 2 points in a playoff game with the Celtics in the year they won a ring lol. Ben was fine in the playoffs for the most part, he just didn't have the supporting cast (relative to the league) Rondo did. You're focusing on ONE game, but Ben for his career averages 13.9 PPG in the playoffs. No one is saying Ben is a good scorer, but 2 PPG isn't the norm for him.

[j3lademaster]

It’s hard to call 4 straight finals with 2 titles underachieving. I don’t care who you are, that’s an impressive 4 year span.

[rmt]

They should have won in 2011, but they took care of business otherwise. They had no real shot in 2014, that team was ravaged by injuries and age.

Age? You mean 32 year old Wade, 29 year olds Bosh and Lebron vs 38 year old Duncan, 36 year old Manu and 31 year old Parker? LOL.

They ran into a BUZZSAW - playing practically perfect/peak basketball at the right time.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Rondo scored 2 points in a playoff game with the Celtics in the year they won a ring lol. Ben was fine in the playoffs for the most part, he just didn't have the supporting cast (relative to the league) Rondo did. You're focusing on ONE game, but Ben for his career averages 13.9 PPG in the playoffs. No one is saying Ben is a good scorer, but 2 PPG isn't the norm for him.

Rondo averaged 10 points for the Cs when they won a ring. He was a roleplayer, a fact that you really ought to be aware of, so a low-scoring game is not as big of a deal as when it comes from a repeated All-Star that averaged 16 as the second best player on his team. No one was saying 20, 21 year-old Rondo was a star player. You really don't know that? Someone has to be rated highly to be overrated.

Poor postseason performance was very normal for Simmons. That final playoff series vs Atlanta is almost legendary.

[j3lademaster]

Age? You mean 32 year old Wade, 29 year olds Bosh and Lebron vs 38 year old Duncan, 36 year old Manu and 31 year old Parker? LOL.

They ran into a BUZZSAW - playing practically perfect/peak basketball at the right time.

players age differently. 33 year old Wade was done as any semblance of a star player while Lebron at age 33 was arguably the best version of himself. And it’s not like the Spurs relied on TD, Manu and Parker the way Miami relied on their big 3, the Spurs had the goat coach(Spo wasn’t what he is now), Leonard and young solid role players like Green, Mills, Bellinelli. They blew the Miami role players out of the water.

[tpols]

They were 1 single miracle play away from winning only 1 title... had the GOAT choke (2011)... and the biggest blowout loss in Finals history to seal their reign. (2014)

Overall Miami had a losing Finals win loss record, and massive negative Finals point differential.

All that after projecting THEMSELVES... not the media or others, straight from the horses mouth that they'd be a Bill Russell 5+ rings level dynasty.

So you tell me.

[RRR3]

Rondo averaged 10 points for the Cs when they won a ring. He was a roleplayer, a fact that you really ought to be aware of, so a low-scoring game is not as big of a deal as when it comes from a repeated All-Star that averaged 16 as the second best player on his team. No one was saying 20, 21 year-old Rondo was a star player. You really don't know that? Someone has to be rated highly to be overrated.

Poor postseason performance was very normal for Simmons. That final playoff series vs Atlanta is almost legendary.

Simmons was never a high scorer either, he's actually probably what Rondo would look like if he was 6'10, it's weird you like one and hate the other.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Simmons was never a high scorer either, he's actually probably what Rondo would look like if he was 6'10, it's weird you like one and hate the other.

You do understand what the term "overrated" means, right? Seeing as you're using it you should be aware of the meaning. If a player makes the All-Star team and another player does not then he is being rated more highly. When the Celtics won the tutle Rondo was a roleplayer, 4th best player on the team, not an All-Star. Simmons was an All-Star, second-best player on the team, and if a guy is averaging 16 then he is being counted on to score. The 4, 5, and 6 point playoff games are completely unacceptable, and durectly lead to his coach admitting that he wasn't sure he could be the point guard for a champ team.

If Rondo was 6'10 he'd have been Magic. The tragic flaw of Simmons is being deathly afraid of shooting. Rondo was a bad shooter when he was young and worked on it to the point where he was respectable late in his career. The way Simmons has been acting we can't even be sure there will be any "late in his career." You're wrong. It happens. Get over it.

[sdot_thadon]

All that after projecting THEMSELVES... not the media or others, straight from the horses mouth that they'd be a Bill Russell 5+ rings level dynasty.

So you tell me.

How many athletes have said things about themselves or teams, with conviction in a serious setting and you still here holding on to a ticket holder only pep rally speech. This trope wore out like a decade ago man. And 2 rings and 4 finals appearances in 4 years is something only Goldenstate has been able to match/surpass. Since the start of this century when the Lakers 3 peated. Aka doesn't happen very often at all

[warriorfan]

Cheatles were a big time disappointment

[Axe]

They weren't as dominant nor cohesive as the dynasty warriors were. It would have been interesting to see them win b2b 60-games but it didn't happen at all. A bit weird considering lebron did it in years 2009 and 2010. Under the trio they also got their first ring in a lockout season. And 2014 raises an interesting question; would lebron have left the team if they did win the title that year?

[And1AllDay]

was 4 finals straight with 2 chips underachieving um?

list every team in nba history that has done 4 finals straight and won at least 2 of them thangs

ill wait...short list

yep
11-14 heat
15-19 warriors
82-85 lakers

thats the list

[red1]

2 rings
4 finals

in 4 years


I think heat fans are doing alright

[Charlie Sheen]

It’s hard to call 4 straight finals with 2 titles underachieving. I don’t care who you are, that’s an impressive 4 year span.

I think a lot of us - myself included - bought into the real world playing out like 2k. Looking back now... the expectations i put on that heat team was silly and impossible to achieve.

[gengiskhan]

was 4 finals straight with 2 chips underachieving um?

list every team in nba history that has done 4 finals straight and won at least 2 of them thangs

ill wait...short list

yep
11-14 heat
15-19 warriors
82-85 lakers

thats the list

HEAT is a "super team"..................and Others are NOT!.

built off specifically from 3 Franchisee (HEAT + CAVS + RAPTORS)

All 3, Bron, Wade (2006 FMVP) and Bosh are franchise that teams were built around

nobody is going to build a team around Klay or old Perish or old Kareem.

to top this off, HEATles did under accomplished big big time.

especially, in light of 2011 MAVS loss.

2011 MAVs are no way close to 1982 SIXERS or 1984 Celtics.