ISH all-time draft thread

[DJMcDonald]

My final team:

Steve Nash
Vince Carter
Tracy McGrady
Dirk Nowitski
Shaquille O'Neal

Gary Payton
Andrei Kirilenko
Shawn Marion

[AlternativeAcc.]

Mm malone is only good vs people he can push and slap ball from. Any big with touch will just shoot over him. Malone at c isn’t wrong but considering these are all time cs, he’d have a hard time. Imo of course.

-Smak

Idk, he shut down peak Duncan and Yao at age 40. Gave D-Rob fits as well

Strong as hell, great hands, great rebounder. I think Giannis compliments him well on that end.

[1987_Lakers]

Idk, he shut down peak Duncan and Yao at age 40. Gave D-Rob fits as well

Strong as hell, great hands, great rebounder. I think Giannis compliments him well on that end.

We got the Giannis stopper



And the Edwards stopper if Manny wants to take him.

[1987_Lakers]

Found this tweet from 2023 season

Players FG% when guarded by OG Anunoby this season:

Shai Gilgeous A. — 37.5%
Kevin Durant — 33.3%
Kawhi Leonard — 33.3%
Domantas Sabonis — 33.3%
James Harden — 30.0%
Bam Adebayo — 25.0%
Joel Embiid — 16.7%
Bradley Beal — 16.7%
Anthony Edwards — 0.0%

[AlternativeAcc.]

Lol, OG is a beast. I took him in our last draft.

But Malone would wreak havoc on Embiid. If Horford could give him fits, Malone definitely could.

[j3lademaster]

Something more recent

https://streamable.com/d3rnof

Giannis is easily the least skilled superstar ever. If he can't find success simply putting his head down and barreling into the defense just hoping for the best, he has no plan B.

edit: this isn't me saying he isn't a top caliber player worth a 2nd round pick, I just hate watching him.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Something more recent

https://streamable.com/d3rnof

Giannis is easily the least skilled superstar ever. If he can't find success simply putting his head down and barreling into the defense just hoping for the best, he has no plan B.

edit: this isn't me saying he isn't a top caliber player worth a 2nd round pick, I just hate watching him.

Bill Russell is the least skilled ever. Giannis is pretty unique because he's a big man but plays like a guard or wing. His ball handling, passing, and driving are far superior to big men of the past, he just lacks the traditional skill set.

[1987_Lakers]

Something more recent

https://streamable.com/d3rnof

Giannis is easily the least skilled superstar ever. If he can't find success simply putting his head down and barreling into the defense just hoping for the best, he has no plan B.

edit: this isn't me saying he isn't a top caliber player worth a 2nd round pick, I just hate watching him.

I've seen some old footage of Wilt and I gotta say some of his post moves looked pretty clumsy, but the NBA was in its early stages around that time, the skill in general for most players were not there yet. I've seen some footage of Dr. J and although he was a great athlete, his ball-handling seemed pretty bad.

[ILLsmak]

Idk, he shut down peak Duncan and Yao at age 40. Gave D-Rob fits as well

Strong as hell, great hands, great rebounder. I think Giannis compliments him well on that end.

He gave Drob a seizure haha. Drob doesn't know how to hold the ball up.

Look at who you are up against:

Jokic
Shaq
Hakeem
Kareem
Embiid (lol but he'd prol still work v Karl cuz he can shoot over)
Drob (depends on team, but in general, I think he'd do ok vs Malone for a whole game / series.)

I think your idea is to have Malone lean on people while Giannis comes over to help and contest, but I dunno how solid that is in practice when the front line consists of two all time greats. The only thing you can say is maybe Malone could flagrant some people and get them scared, but I dunno which one of those guys would get scared... maybe Embiid and Drob.

Edit: @ horford, dude is underrated as a defender and he has great shot blocking instincts. It's a little different. Malone isn't gonna jump at all. He's gonna hope he can strip you, but that's not something that will continually work.

-Smak

[Manny98]

With my last pick I'm picking Alex Caruso, a perfect complimentary role player who's arguably the best perimeter defender of this generation who also shot 40% from 3 point

Final team

PG: Billups
SG: Ray
SF: Pippen
PF: Porzingis
C: Jokic

Bench

Barkley
Manu
Caruso

[AlternativeAcc.]

Drob (depends on team, but in general, I think he'd do ok vs Malone for a whole game / series.)





-Smak

Malone destroyed Robinson in the playoffs on both ends.

But yeah, I mean, most of the guys mentioned are unstoppable anyways 1 on 1 regardless. But you're sleeping on Malones strength and IQ in the post. He would definitely bully Embiid.

[1987_Lakers]

I can make a realgm poll tomorrow morning if you guys want. Would do it now, but feeling tired.

[Im Still Ballin]

Bill Russell is the least skilled ever. Giannis is pretty unique because he's a big man but plays like a guard or wing. His ball handling, passing, and driving are far superior to big men of the past, he just lacks the traditional skill set.

Bill Russell was a strong ball-handler, passer, and roll-and-cut finisher. He unfortunately played in an era that suppressed those offensive strengths. He was forced to take a lot of jump shots and post-up isolation plays which weren't his strengths. It helps to explain his scoring efficiency.

He's a 75% FG guy at the rim according to a 500-possession tracking sample from RealGM poster Dipper 13. There just weren't many good opportunities to get there for a guy with Bill's archetype because of the clogged paint and restrictive rules regarding dribbling, carrying, traveling, and offensive fouls (offensive players weren't allowed to anywhere near as physical as they are now).

Offensively, Bill in the modern game is an elite rim-runner who can handle the ball and pass like Joakim/Dray and slash like Ben Simmons/Giannis. He would lead the break and get 4-8 ppg from that alone. Add that to 13-15 ppg from rolling, cutting, face-up slashing, sealing, and put-backs. Add 6-8 assists and you've got a legitimate DHO/short-roll passing hub.

Imagine this guy today attacking the spaced-out paint today. When he's allowed to handle the ball like it's a football and take an extra step. That's a 6'11" in shoes guy with a standing reach and arm length to match Shaq, Wilt, etc.






The obvious modern comparisons regarding that combination of size, athleticism, and ball handling that spring to mind are Kevin Garnett, David Robinson, and Giannis.

[SouBeachTalents]

Guys I'm honestly pretty surprised weren't taken

Harden
Dame
Jaylen
Ant

[warriorfan]

Bill Russell was a strong ball-handler, passer, and roll-and-cut finisher. He unfortunately played in an era that suppressed those offensive strengths. He was forced to take a lot of jump shots and post-up isolation plays which weren't his strengths It helps to explain his scoring efficiency.

He's a 75% FG guy at the rim according to a 500-possession tracking sample from RealGM poster Dipper 13. There just weren't many good opportunities to get there for a guy with Bill's archetype because of the clogged paint and restrictive rules regarding dribbling, carrying, traveling, and offensive fouls (offensive players weren't allowed to anywhere near as physical as they are now).

Offensively, Bill in the modern game is an elite rim-runner who can handle the ball and pass like Joakim/Dray and slash like Ben Simmons/Giannis. He would lead the break and get 4-8 ppg from that alone. Add that to 13-15 ppg from rolling, cutting, face-up slashing, sealing, and put-backs. Add 6-8 assists and you've got a legitimate DHO/short-roll passing hub.

This is one is good. It’s slightly clunky but I think he polishes it up for sure if he was bright up today. And of course the athleticism is outlier tier.

Guys I'm honestly pretty surprised weren't taken

Harden
Dame
Jaylen
Ant

I don’t even know the teams really but if it’s all time draft….idk dame and harden are nice of course but they both have their weaknesses. And depending on who’s voting you might not get alot of love for those two, especially harden.