9/11 truthers, how do you explain Bin Laden?

[ArbitraryWater]

Bin Laden trained a group of middle eastern guys by sending them to a flight school then they were able to hop into a jumbo jet and in their first attempt fly directly into both twin towers and also do a 270 degree corkscrew while flying 500+ mph less than 10 meters from the ground and crash directly into the pentagon, one of the most secure targets in the entire world….even after a state of emergency was kicked off over 4 hours earlier.




Sounds legit.

Yeah, its all foul.


But how do you explain his existence/taking credit for it?

[ArbitraryWater]

I didnt even realize its 9/11 tomorrow lmao

[Doomsday Dallas]

Funny how people dismiss & ignore this video.

Just a crazy nutjob conspiracy theorist who happened to get lucky I guess... or maybe not so lucky since he was killed shortly after 9/11.

[ShawkFactory]

Yeah, its all foul.


But how do you explain his existence/taking credit for it?

I’m not necessarily a 9/11 truther. But this situation is win/win. Bin Laden gets the cred amongst the radical Islam hordes and the US is absolved of blame with someone else taking credit.

[ArbitraryWater]

I’m not necessarily a 9/11 truther. But this situation is win/win. Bin Laden gets the cred amongst the radical Islam hordes and the US is absolved of blame with someone else taking credit.

Right, so most people are on page with him being CIA?


I wonder if he let his comrades/followers in on it in the sense that they were paid off too.

Or if he fooled them, then.


Tim Osman was apparently his CIA name.

https://cryptome.org/tim-osman.htm
this ****ing link is the only thing Google will show you about it lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Whats sketchy is letting Bin Laden if he was in on it, live another decade after 9/11...

Maybe that was part of the deal

[SouBeachTalents]

I feel like there are so many holes in the 9/11 conspiracy theories

1. Why would they feel the need to carry out any attack beyond the WTC? Why would they risk exposure with two additional attacks when the vast majority of the casualties would already be at the WTC, and that alone would be grounds for war overseas/any other motivations they'd have to do this.

2. If they went through all the trouble to carry out this attack to murder 3000 civilians, why wouldn't they just plant WMD's in Iraq to justify their invasion? That honestly makes zero sense, and I'd love to hear an explanation for why they would do this.

3. Why would they schedule Bush to be at an elementary school the morning of the attack? You could argue it makes it seem like they were that unprepared for the attack, but I don't see a real benefit to having him recorded live while the events are going on.

4. Regardless of political party, I think the majority would agree Bush was the worst president of the modern era, someone who's administration showed incompetence at nearly every turn. Do you really trust his team to pull off such an intricate plot while never getting caught?

5. Arguably the most damning to me, the amount of people required to be involved to pull off this level of attack would be pretty staggering. Are you telling me not a single person involved in all these years would ever come forward, either out of guilt for all those killed or for the the absolutely absurd amount of fame & money they would obtain by doing so? Sure, you could argue doing that would put them at significant risk to be killed, but I think either the guilt of so many deaths on their conscience or the benefits to blow the whistle on an event the scale of 9/11 would be worth the risk to at least one person involved.

There's probably even more holes in the story I could come up with, but all in all, I feel like a bunch of terrorists training to fly, then hijacking planes when security was much more lax makes more sense than it being an inside job. If you have rebuttals for the above, I'd love to hear them.

[diamenz]

I feel like there are so many holes in the 9/11 conspiracy theories

1. Why would they feel the need to carry out any attack beyond the WTC? Why would they risk exposure with two additional attacks when the vast majority of the casualties would already be at the WTC, and that alone would be grounds for war overseas/any other motivations they'd have to do this.

2. If they went through all the trouble to carry out this attack to murder 3000 civilians, why wouldn't they just plant WMD's in Iraq to justify their invasion? That honestly makes zero sense, and I'd love to hear an explanation for why they would do this.

3. Why would they schedule Bush to be at an elementary school the morning of the attack? You could argue it makes it seem like they were that unprepared for the attack, but I don't see a real benefit to having him recorded live while the events are going on.

4. Regardless of political party, I think the majority would agree Bush was the worst president of the modern era, someone who's administration showed incompetence at nearly every turn. Do you really trust his team to pull off such an intricate plot while never getting caught?

5. Arguably the most damning to me, the amount of people required to be involved to pull off this level of attack would be pretty staggering. Are you telling me not a single person involved in all these years would ever come forward, either out of guilt for all those killed or for the the absolutely absurd amount of fame & money they would obtain by doing so? Sure, you could argue doing that would put them at significant risk to be killed, but I think either the guilt of so many deaths on their conscience or the benefits to blow the whistle on an event the scale of 9/11 would be worth the risk to at least one person involved.

There's probably even more holes in the story I could come up with, but all in all, I feel like a bunch of terrorists training to fly, then hijacking planes when security was much more lax makes more sense than it being an inside job. If you have rebuttals for the above, I'd love to hear them.

i'm gonna spare myself from the subject of this thread for the mos part but in regard to #3...

would you trust bush jr. with anything? if someone at the top or behind the scenes did indeed somehow orchestrate 9/11, the first thing on their mind would absolutely and positively be leaving bush in the dark about it.

[Bill Gates]

I feel like there are so many holes in the 9/11 conspiracy theories

1. Why would they feel the need to carry out any attack beyond the WTC? Why would they risk exposure with two additional attacks when the vast majority of the casualties would already be at the WTC, and that alone would be grounds for war overseas/any other motivations they'd have to do this.

2. If they went through all the trouble to carry out this attack to murder 3000 civilians, why wouldn't they just plant WMD's in Iraq to justify their invasion? That honestly makes zero sense, and I'd love to hear an explanation for why they would do this.

3. Why would they schedule Bush to be at an elementary school the morning of the attack? You could argue it makes it seem like they were that unprepared for the attack, but I don't see a real benefit to having him recorded live while the events are going on.

4. Regardless of political party, I think the majority would agree Bush was the worst president of the modern era, someone who's administration showed incompetence at nearly every turn. Do you really trust his team to pull off such an intricate plot while never getting caught?

5. Arguably the most damning to me, the amount of people required to be involved to pull off this level of attack would be pretty staggering. Are you telling me not a single person involved in all these years would ever come forward, either out of guilt for all those killed or for the the absolutely absurd amount of fame & money they would obtain by doing so? Sure, you could argue doing that would put them at significant risk to be killed, but I think either the guilt of so many deaths on their conscience or the benefits to blow the whistle on an event the scale of 9/11 would be worth the risk to at least one person involved.

There's probably even more holes in the story I could come up with, but all in all, I feel like a bunch of terrorists training to fly, then hijacking planes when security was much more lax makes more sense than it being an inside job. If you have rebuttals for the above, I'd love to hear them.

There are so many holes it's ridiculous. To me the single biggest hole is that if the US Gov really cares so deeply about what the US public thinks, then why didn't they plant WMDs in Iraq? That would have been absolutely simple to orchestrate.

All of this was some insanely massive (and weird) conspiracy to convince the American people that it's okay to invade the middle east, but they didn't care to put WMDs in Iraq? Which would have justified ALL of it for us? Makes no sense. None of it makes any sense.

[Bill Gates]

Also mind you, right before 9/11 the US had just attacked and occupied Iraq (Desert Storm) without any terror attack or threat needed. They didn't care the slightest what the citizens thought about it.

[Patrick Chewing]

Also mind you, right before 9/11 the US had just attacked and occupied Iraq (Desert Storm) without any terror attack or threat needed. They didn't care the slightest what the citizens thought about it.

LOL uhhh I think you are mistaken. Slightly off. By only 10 years.

[jstern]

SWEET! I'll wait to give my opinion on 9/11 when you make your thread tomorrow! See you then!

I've got big plans for some threads too!

I'm not going to create a 9/11 related thread when there's an active one, and undermine it.

I didnt even realize its 9/11 tomorrow lmao

I didn't know either. And though I said I was going to create my 9/11 thread today, I was actually aming for tomorrow.

Also mind you, right before 9/11 the US had just attacked and occupied Iraq (Desert Storm) without any terror attack or threat needed. They didn't care the slightest what the citizens thought about it.

Are you unaware of Nayirah testimony? (Difficult to find on YouTube).



The girl took acting lessons for that performance.

But one performance is not going to be enough to invade so many different countries, over decades, to launder trillions. You need a much bigger shock than incubator babies.

[ArbitraryWater]

I feel like there are so many holes in the 9/11 conspiracy theories

1. Why would they feel the need to carry out any attack beyond the WTC? Why would they risk exposure with two additional attacks when the vast majority of the casualties would already be at the WTC, and that alone would be grounds for war overseas/any other motivations they'd have to do this.

2. If they went through all the trouble to carry out this attack to murder 3000 civilians, why wouldn't they just plant WMD's in Iraq to justify their invasion? That honestly makes zero sense, and I'd love to hear an explanation for why they would do this.

3. Why would they schedule Bush to be at an elementary school the morning of the attack? You could argue it makes it seem like they were that unprepared for the attack, but I don't see a real benefit to having him recorded live while the events are going on.

4. Regardless of political party, I think the majority would agree Bush was the worst president of the modern era, someone who's administration showed incompetence at nearly every turn. Do you really trust his team to pull off such an intricate plot while never getting caught?

5. Arguably the most damning to me, the amount of people required to be involved to pull off this level of attack would be pretty staggering. Are you telling me not a single person involved in all these years would ever come forward, either out of guilt for all those killed or for the the absolutely absurd amount of fame & money they would obtain by doing so? Sure, you could argue doing that would put them at significant risk to be killed, but I think either the guilt of so many deaths on their conscience or the benefits to blow the whistle on an event the scale of 9/11 would be worth the risk to at least one person involved.

There's probably even more holes in the story I could come up with, but all in all, I feel like a bunch of terrorists training to fly, then hijacking planes when security was much more lax makes more sense than it being an inside job. If you have rebuttals for the above, I'd love to hear them.

No words on Bin Laden?



As for 4) and 5):

Its not Bush who would have orchestrated it. He was just the sitting president. He probably would have had knowledge, but what was really interesting to me; what Vivek said the last couple of days:

President Biden has cognitive difficulties. President Harris has cognitive difficulties. This isnt by mistake. This is by design. Bush was a simpleton too. These people are prob in over their head and its by design. They dont lead the country after all.


And you overestimate the amount of people that would have to be in on this. Many could act along accordingly while believing what theyre doing is good, this is where the CIA funding and training Abajeen or whatever fighters comes into play, for example. Mobilizing them. You work up someone like Bin Laden, its an easy sell to many Islamists to do what they did.

The stuff at the airport would never have had to happen.

Did anyone at the airport actually witness these guys? Any witness accounts?

[warriorfan]

No words on Bin Laden?



Anyway, its not Bush who would have orchestrated it. He was just the sitting president. He probably would have had knowledge, but what was really interesting to me; what Vivek said the last couple of days:

President Biden has cognitive difficulties. President Harris has cognitive difficulties. This isnt by mistake. This is by design. Bush was a simpleton too. These people are prob in over their head and its by design. They dont lead the country after all.

I’ve said for years that Biden is the new version of Bush jr, an unaware figurehead that allows everyone else to pull the strings behind him. He’s just a yes man who signs the papers in a ceremonial fashion.

Some guys think this is a good thing….”at least he doesn’t make mean tweets like trump!”

lol

[ArbitraryWater]

I feel like there are so many holes in the 9/11 conspiracy theories

1. Why would they feel the need to carry out any attack beyond the WTC? Why would they risk exposure with two additional attacks when the vast majority of the casualties would already be at the WTC, and that alone would be grounds for war overseas/any other motivations they'd have to do this.

2. If they went through all the trouble to carry out this attack to murder 3000 civilians, why wouldn't they just plant WMD's in Iraq to justify their invasion? That honestly makes zero sense, and I'd love to hear an explanation for why they would do this.

3. Why would they schedule Bush to be at an elementary school the morning of the attack? You could argue it makes it seem like they were that unprepared for the attack, but I don't see a real benefit to having him recorded live while the events are going on.

I dont see how 3 is indicative of anything. Wasnt redudant or beneficial. The picture of him being told probably went around the world.

I mean, the first tower was hit BEFORE he entered that room. He already had knowledge. So you could easily argue they were going for that.


2) I dont think planting WMDs is very easy.


A terror attack gave Americans a much better picture of an enemy, and Israel too ("greater Israel").


Netanyahu was in Congress in 2002 and suggested to America that they should overthrow Saddam Hussein, for "Democracy".

Theres a book called "A Clean Break" which focuses on how America and Israel planned to overthrow Hussein since the 90s.



Youd be right about 1). I wouldnt see the motive for that.


However, there are many disputes about those events too.

Many experts have said no plane crashed into the Pentagon.