TRADE: Luka Doncic to Lakers, Anthony Davis to Mavericks

[tpols]

Dallas isn't winning shit with AD. They made the Finals last season because of Luka.

There's very little chance that would've happened again seeing as how the road will be tougher this year than kawhi less clippers, baby OKC, and Timberwolves. Thunder are hitting their prime now and Denver looks amazing.

Luka is fat and out of shape and literally out hurt right now. While AD has been having a monster season. Dallas can load manage him a lot more too because they have Gafford and Lively. Defense is about to take off. They have no weak link anymore and the best paint / rim defense in the league.

[tomtucker]

Luka is a fat sloppy fu*k.... like Zion in New Orleans.

nobody wins this trade!

[StrongLurk]

What a strange trade.

Unless the Lakers make another big move, they just got WAY WORSE in the short term. They already have Bron/Reaves for ball handling, so Luka is redundant AND now the Lakers just lost their ONLY good interior defender/rebounder. Lakers with Luka/Reaves/Bron/Rui/Hayes will be a bottom 3 defense in the league and also bottom 3 at rebounding. They are doing absolutely nothing the rest of the year competition-wise if this is the roster for the rest of the year.

Honestly seems like a crazy blow to Bron too, he's about to retire and the Lakers just said "no more competing for a ring, also we just brought in your replacement".

It's a weird trade from the Mavs perspective too, but at least I could potentially see some benefit since AD brings a lot of different value than Luka and now the Mavericks don't have to pay Luka a huge sum of money when he has conditioning issues and potentially a lot more nagging injuries coming up in his career.

[GOBB]

Yeah, Luka for Embiid is fair value even though Embiid is 5 years older with zero postseason success, and insanely injury prone.

*scrolls*

What post season success does Luka have exactly? First rd exits until last season.


Injury prone? The guy is a fat American and he’s not American. Explain that to me.

Defense? About as non existent as Embiid in a back to back.


When you list the top 5 players in the NBA past 2-3 seasons Luka and Embiid are mentioned. How you rank them? That is on you. Both aren’t winners of anything besides stats and accolades. One is younger and competed with Zion on the scale. The other compete with Anthony Davis in the training room.

Preference and personal bias aside. Luka vslue is not more than Embiid. Certainly not Maxey and Embiid.

[Full Court]

Holy shit, why would the Mavs do this????

Obviously Luka & LeBron is a weird fit, but he's about to retire. Luka is top 5 player in the league and entering his peak

Maybe the Lakers are expecting Lebron to go down for the Diddy thing.

[90sgoat]

The question being asked a lot is "why didnt the Mavs shop him?". My theory on this is that the Mavs didnt want to trade Luka as much as they wanted AD. If the Lakers didnt bite for any reason or asked for too much, they would have kept it quiet and moved on, without Luka knowing about it. They believe that AD is the final piece of the jigsaw, can make them win right now and was attainable.

They were right about the latter, we'll see if they're right about the former.

AD is underrated because the lebronies want to act as if Lebron is the best player.

AD at his best is definitely a Finals MVP player.

You can draft 5 times and still not get someone as good.

[AlternativeAcc.]

*scrolls*

What post season success does Luka have exactly? First rd exits until last season.


Injury prone? The guy is a fat American and he’s not American. Explain that to me.

Defense? About as non existent as Embiid in a back to back.


When you list the top 5 players in the NBA past 2-3 seasons Luka and Embiid are mentioned. How you rank them? That is on you. Both aren’t winners of anything besides stats and accolades. One is younger and competed with Zion on the scale. The other compete with Anthony Davis in the training room.

Preference and personal bias aside. Luka vslue is not more than Embiid. Certainly not Maxey and Embiid.

Luka averages 31/9/8 in his playoff career and has multiple conference title visits and a finals run at the age of 25 with rosters nobody expected to make it that far.

Embiid, otoh, has a long resume of being injury prone and one of the biggest playoff disappointments in NBA history.

There is not a single educated NBA fan on the planet who thinks a Luka for Embiid trade is "fair value".

[Real Men Wear Green]

I don’t think Luka value is that great tho. Maxey & Embiid? Nah. Not for a player who is a horrific defensively. Luka for Embiid is fair value. And chances of Luka improving defensively may never happen.

We will never know because Dallas targeted Davis instead of opening up the bidding. But if opinions in front office are similar to opinions we see on this board they're would be a lot of GMs that think Doncic is the most talented player in the league. Everyone won't have that view but they only needed one GM with major assets to think that way.

[Neal Romer]

*scrolls*

What post season success does Luka have exactly? First rd exits until last season.


Injury prone? The guy is a fat American and he’s not American. Explain that to me.

Defense? About as non existent as Embiid in a back to back.


When you list the top 5 players in the NBA past 2-3 seasons Luka and Embiid are mentioned. How you rank them? That is on you. Both aren’t winners of anything besides stats and accolades. One is younger and competed with Zion on the scale. The other compete with Anthony Davis in the training room.

Preference and personal bias aside. Luka vslue is not more than Embiid. Certainly not Maxey and Embiid.

He didnt do this to the number 1 seed Phoenix Suns in 2022 en route to a conference finals?




Whatever else you wanna say about Luka, the one thing thats undeniable is he has been a playoff KILLER.

Thats not up for dispute between sane individuals.

[GOBB]

Luka averages 31/9/8 in his playoff career and has multiple conference title visits and a finals run at the age of 25 with rosters nobody expected to make it that far.

Embiid, otoh, has a long resume of being injury prone and one of the biggest playoff disappointments in NBA history.

There is not a single educated NBA fan on the planet who thinks a Luka for Embiid trade is "fair value".

The start of your post proves my point. Neither player accomplished any success outside of stats and accolades lol

“Luka carried Dallas to the finals”.

They beat Clippers without its best player.
They beat up on the youngest team in the playoffs
Kudos on the Wolves series

They got a dose of reality vs the Celtics. And one of the things they LACKED in that series they gained in a trade. Go figure that


But continue with the cute espn stat takes “first player to take team at age 25 with 25% body fat to the nba finals while avg over 27ppg”. Kewl!

I don’t care what fans on the planet think. Somehow you know what they think. What a fascinating skill you possess. Why are you here and not on Forbes? You’re sitting on a lottery ticket and afraid to cash in.


You don’t have to agree with me that embiid and Luka is fair value. But here is a fact? Ready for this? Luka was just traded for Anthony Davis. Yikes. That happened. But I’m crazy to think embiid and Luka is for value. Got it.

[Neal Romer]

20 point first quarter in a conference finals closeout game. Against a higher seeded team with the DPOY, 6MoY, and "next MJ".

Damn.

[BallsOut]

*scrolls*

What post season success does Luka have exactly? First rd exits until last season.


Injury prone? The guy is a fat American and he’s not American. Explain that to me.

Defense? About as non existent as Embiid in a back to back.


When you list the top 5 players in the NBA past 2-3 seasons Luka and Embiid are mentioned. How you rank them? That is on you. Both aren’t winners of anything besides stats and accolades. One is younger and competed with Zion on the scale. The other compete with Anthony Davis in the training room.

Preference and personal bias aside. Luka vslue is not more than Embiid. Certainly not Maxey and Embiid.

Embiid competes with anyone in the training room? He just ducked Jokic in another DNP this season. That's what 7 matches in a row now? Compete and Embiid just don't belong in the same sentence the way you want it to.

Only NBA player Embidd competes with is Zion with how many rest days and non back to backs they play. Nobody would trade for Embidd. What a terrible bloated contract he only plays in half his games.

[Full Court]

20 point first quarter in a conference finals closeout game. Against a higher seeded team with the DPOY, 6MoY, and "next MJ".

Damn.

The dude can score for sure. The question is will Lebron be willing to be the team's beta and let Luka dominate the ball?

[1987_Lakers]

*scrolls*

What post season success does Luka have exactly? First rd exits until last season.

[jayfan]

Both teams get worse. Nice.


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