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    Quote Originally Posted by ILLsmak View Post
    dude it's literally people who if someone knew they were here, they would be removed. It's such a ridiculous comparison to compare them to some group. Compare them to... like Muslims in Michigan or Minnesota. They came here, they might not even be all citizens yet, but they are here by legal means. Some people may say some wild shit about them and terrorism, but nobody is trampling on their rights because the constitution protects them.

    This is about GANG MEMBERS that are illegals. Sure, I see how it could extend beyond that, and I definitely err on the side of not affecting any American's rights, but I don't think it's wrong to get these guys out. It will pay dividends, because they will dissuade others from doing the same thing.

    It's just not fascist haha. You guys have been using that word + Hitler enough that we are all ready for Trump to declare himself God emperor and start rounding people up. It's in the back of our minds cuz then it'll be like oh shit we didn't see it coming when everyone else did! They were right! But I kinda don't think it's gonna happen haha. Still, this is not that. It's just 100% not.

    What we did to the Indians is probably more similar to what this is, and that was way more wack. We don't celebrate it, but nobody acts like our constitution protected them. Chill out. Let's get the gang members out of our country and see what happens.

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    That’s why we have judges issuing warrants. I don’t have a problem with someone going into a house with a WARRANT and deporting illegals, I have always been an advocate of deportation being done correctly. I have a problem with undertrained officers doing it on a whim based on an anonymous tip with no backing. And it’s directly against the 4th amendment, so it’s literally unconstitutional. Not a debate, that’s objective to anyone who understands the Constitution at all. So yes, it’s fascist since it is impeding on constitutional rights of citizens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86Celtics View Post
    You f*cking morons. Delusional c*nts actually believe that this can't happen to them.

    It's astounding that no matter what Trump does; be it trample the Constitution, or wreck the economy, these dumb f*cks are fine with it.
    I vividly remember you guys telling us you didn't care about the economy when it came to shutting down all the blue states for over a year. Two weeks to slow the curve became two months which then became two years. Trump and the GOP urged democrats to open back up but democrats said go f*ck yourselves we're shutting down for as long as we feel like it.

    It's just really, REALLY strange that those of you who were in support of intentionally wrecking the economy are now deeply concerned about the state of the economy.

    Isn't it? Isn't it strange?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILLsmak View Post
    dude it's literally people who if someone knew they were here, they would be removed. It's such a ridiculous comparison to compare them to some group. Compare them to... like Muslims in Michigan or Minnesota. They came here, they might not even be all citizens yet, but they are here by legal means. Some people may say some wild shit about them and terrorism, but nobody is trampling on their rights because the constitution protects them.

    This is about GANG MEMBERS that are illegals. Sure, I see how it could extend beyond that, and I definitely err on the side of not affecting any American's rights, but I don't think it's wrong to get these guys out. It will pay dividends, because they will dissuade others from doing the same thing.

    It's just not fascist haha. You guys have been using that word + Hitler enough that we are all ready for Trump to declare himself God emperor and start rounding people up. It's in the back of our minds cuz then it'll be like oh shit we didn't see it coming when everyone else did! They were right! But I kinda don't think it's gonna happen haha. Still, this is not that. It's just 100% not.

    What we did to the Indians is probably more similar to what this is, and that was way more wack. We don't celebrate it, but nobody acts like our constitution protected them. Chill out. Let's get the gang members out of our country and see what happens.

    -Smak
    Never called Trump Hitler. He's a poor man's Franco and not even that. He's too impulsive.

    The problem is not who gets targeted. It's the implementation of exceptions from laws. Raids without warrants? Sure only for illegals. It's ok. No harm for US citizens. Next up for wokies. It's ok. No harm for conservatives. Etcetc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILLsmak View Post
    Sux that they might see some shit they shouldn't see, and some people's rights will be violated, but it's like if we had ISIS cells in our country. They are focusing on Trens. If weird shit happens, I will comment again haha.

    This is a funny line:

    The broad definition has already resulted in the apprehension and deportation of more than 200 men to El Salvador who just happened to have tattoos, like gay makeup artist Andry José Hernández Romero.

    ^ Seems very judgmental.

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    Gay makeup artists are in the persona non grata list, and rightfully so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    Gay makeup artists are in the persona non grata list, and rightfully so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    I vividly remember you guys telling us you didn't care about the economy when it came to shutting down all the blue states for over a year. Two weeks to slow the curve became two months which then became two years. Trump and the GOP urged democrats to open back up but democrats said go f*ck yourselves we're shutting down for as long as we feel like it.

    It's just really, REALLY strange that those of you who were in support of intentionally wrecking the economy are now deeply concerned about the state of the economy.

    Isn't it? Isn't it strange?
    It IS strange, no doubt. It's also strange that the people who have always ran on the state of the economy now don't care if it's in a weird place cause..."just let him cook".

    Both sides on the extreme are hypocrites and neither seem to know it. It's maddening but it'll never change so...fvck it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    Gay makeup artists are in the persona non grata list, and rightfully so.
    What about gay hair stylists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory View Post
    It IS strange, no doubt. It's also strange that the people who have always ran on the state of the economy now don't care if it's in a weird place cause..."just let him cook".

    Both sides on the extreme are hypocrites and neither seem to know it. It's maddening but it'll never change so...fvck it.
    Can’t keep “both sides’ing” this shit, that only works when you’re engaging someone who’s having a discussion in good faith. This is a huge reason Trump won, left leaning voters are too willing to give benefits of the doubt and criticize their own side; whereas that’s a one way street for the right. In a situation where it’s obviously a fascist order like this, they want to deflect and get a “both sides” out of someone like you. The two sides aren’t alike, one tariffs and craters the economy and passes eo’s to impede on the 4th amendment of US citizens the other… encourages Disney to put lesbians in their movies and allow 5 trans people to play women’s sports. Yes, I guess both can be hypocrites at times but the ramifications are literal night and day.

    Ask yourself, if this order came under Biden, how quick would they be to deem him a fascist? And rightfully so. But since it’s Trump look at these people in this very thread trying to deflect or call it “not a big deal, just don’t commit any crimes lol”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j3lademaster View Post
    Can’t keep “both sides’ing” this shit, that only works when you’re engaging someone who’s having a discussion in good faith. This is a huge reason Trump won, left leaning voters are too willing to give benefits of the doubt and criticize their own side; whereas that’s a one way street for the right. In a situation where it’s obviously a fascist order like this, they want to deflect and get a “both sides” out of someone like you. The two sides aren’t alike, one tariffs and craters the economy and passes eo’s to impede on the 4th amendment of US citizens the other… encourages Disney to put lesbians in their movies and allow 5 trans people to play women’s sports. Yes, I guess both can be hypocrites at times but the ramifications are literal night and day.

    Ask yourself, if this order came under Biden, how quick would they be to deem him a fascist? And rightfully so. But since it’s Trump look at these people in this very thread trying to deflect or call it “not a big deal, just don’t commit any crimes lol”.
    Lmao, this motherf*cker just insinuated that republican voters would be MAD if Biden had cut through the red tape and started kicking out illegal gang members.

    They themselves can't imagine standing for a principle so they project their sheepish loyalty onto others. We support Trump because of his policies. You just support democrats because you're triggered by Trump.

    Lets put the shoe on the other foot. Imagine Trump came out tomorrow and said "Hey guys no more border! We're letting everyone in! You hear that El Savador? Mexico? China? Send everyone you have! We have five star hotels and monthly checks waiting for you on the other end!"

    I take it you would be jumping for joy???

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory View Post
    It IS strange, no doubt. It's also strange that the people who have always ran on the state of the economy now don't care if it's in a weird place cause..."just let him cook".

    Both sides on the extreme are hypocrites and neither seem to know it. It's maddening but it'll never change so...fvck it.
    Uh, no.

    We're in this predicament because of democrats.

    Democrats f*cked everything up and now the grown ups have to fix it. Drastic action needed to be taken. The stock market is not the central pillar of our economy. It's just temporary.

    That's not even remotely the same as forcing people out of work, shutting down businesses, shutting down schools, forcing the government to print trillions of dollars, etc. What Trump is doing with these tariff negotiations is not even remotely in the same realm.

    Gas is down, inflation is around the same, groceries are around the same. We're in no worse shape than we were under Brandon. Only now we're actually striving towards something positive.

    But please, go find me a single democrat who was crying over the economy back when they insisted we shut the entire world down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    Uh, no.

    We're in this predicament because of democrats.

    Democrats f*cked everything up and now the grown ups have to fix it. Drastic action needed to be taken. The stock market is not the central pillar of our economy. It's just temporary.

    That's not even remotely the same as forcing people out of work, shutting down businesses, shutting down schools, forcing the government to print trillions of dollars, etc. What Trump is doing with these tariff negotiations is not even remotely in the same realm.

    Gas is down, inflation is around the same, groceries are around the same. We're in no worse shape than we were under Brandon. Only now we're actually striving towards something positive.

    But please, go find me a single democrat who was crying over the economy back when they insisted we shut the entire world down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j3lademaster View Post
    That’s why we have judges issuing warrants. I don’t have a problem with someone going into a house with a WARRANT and deporting illegals, I have always been an advocate of deportation being done correctly. I have a problem with undertrained officers doing it on a whim based on an anonymous tip with no backing. And it’s directly against the 4th amendment, so it’s literally unconstitutional. Not a debate, that’s objective to anyone who understands the Constitution at all. So yes, it’s fascist since it is impeding on constitutional rights of citizens.
    I am assuming they have to offer an explanation and a solid defense of their reasoning. There are situations where you can enter without a warrant if it is an emergency.

    I don’t think this is just like ya no more warrants. Maybe I am wrong. I dunno. I am honestly sick of people twisting shit cuz sooner or later something will happen and people won’t care cuz it’ll seem like nothing compared to the fascist rounding up of illegals and shipping them to concentration camps. It is so removed from reality, it offends me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ILLsmak View Post
    I am assuming they have to offer an explanation and a solid defense of their reasoning. There are situations where you can enter without a warrant if it is an emergency.

    I don’t think this is just like ya no more warrants. Maybe I am wrong. I dunno. I am honestly sick of people twisting shit cuz sooner or later something will happen and people won’t care cuz it’ll seem like nothing compared to the fascist rounding up of illegals and shipping them to concentration camps. It is so removed from reality, it offends me.


    -Smak
    These people get sent to a salvadorian gang riddled prison without trial. So the situation is comparable in some way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Overdrive View Post
    These people get sent to a salvadorian gang riddled prison without trial. So the situation is comparable in some way.
    They're citizens of that country aren't they? They're affiliated with a violent terrorist organization aren't they? Who are we to tell El-Savador they don't have the right to imprison violent gang members who ravaged their country?

    Meanwhile you deviants said not a single word when law abiding Americans were sentenced to 20 years for politely following a police escort through the capitol building on Jan 6.

    So lets see:

    - Violent gang members who aren't citizens... "Awww won't someone think of their civil rights!"

    - Flag waving boomers and grannies... "Traitors! Bury them under the jail!"


    Fu*k outta here with your bullsh*t. No one is buying it. You're a brainwashed lemming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    They're citizens of that country aren't they? They're affiliated with a violent terrorist organization aren't they? Who are we to tell El-Savador they don't have the right to imprison violent gang members who ravaged their country?

    Meanwhile you deviants said not a single word when law abiding Americans were sentenced to 20 years for politely following a police escort through the capitol building on Jan 6.

    So lets see:

    - Violent gang members who aren't citizens... "Awww won't someone think of their civil rights!"

    - Flag waving boomers and grannies... "Traitors! Bury them under the jail!"


    Fu*k outta here with your bullsh*t. No one is buying it. You're a brainwashed lemming.
    Hahahahahaha. Police escort through the capitol. Did those policemen who were injured stumble during that escort? If it were some blacks doing the Jan 6 raid you guys would call for their execution. Get real you fn hypocrites.

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