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    Default Re: Democrats Hate America Part 36: Chicago Mayor Replaces Columbus Statue

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    I think you need to do more research on the Vikings primo. They were known for showing up stealth in long boats in the middle of the night and just murdering, pillaging, and raping coastal towns all over the world. They even made it to India going down and around the southern coast of Africa. Not friendly good people bro. They were literally murderous pirates. That was their trabajo.
    I know that, they just didn't do that in the Americas, the Spanish, Portuguese, English and French did that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMan View Post
    I know that, they just didn't do that in the Americas, the Spanish, Portuguese, English and French did that.
    That's because the areas they came upon in North America were frozen tundras with very little people around. Warmer climates people breed like rats and they're everywhere.

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    Native Americans don’t exist to this clown
    Yea I don't really know about that. I'm never going to discount Columbus's contributions to western globalization, ills that came with it aside for arguments sake.

    But to say that Christopher Columbus "represents" every American in the same way that Big represents his neighborhood, where he literally grew up and knew people personally who took pride in him being from their hood, in Brooklyn is just a wild take. While being a founding piece in the domino effect that eventually (and somewhat indirectly) led to the United States, nothing really about his ideals and values embody what this country is about.

    Just not the same thing at all. And I know it may seem like I'm being pedantic here but I feel like making an accurate analogy shows understanding, and that wasn't the case in this instance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory View Post
    Yea I don't really know about that. I'm never going to discount Columbus's contributions to western globalization, ills that came with it aside for arguments sake.

    But to say that Christopher Columbus "represents" every American in the same way that Big represents his neighborhood, where he literally grew up and knew people personally who took pride in him being from their hood, in Brooklyn is just a wild take. While being a founding piece in the domino effect that eventually (and somewhat indirectly) led to the United States, nothing really about his ideals and values embody what this country is about.

    Just not the same thing at all. And I know it may seem like I'm being pedantic here but I feel like making an accurate analogy shows understanding, and that wasn't the case in this instance.
    Holy shit, talk about a wild take. Good god.

    Statues of Columbus were erected mainly to celebrate his role as a symbol and to honor Italian-American heritage. His bravery led to the creation of the modern western world. Anyone who is alive and is grateful to live in this country owes some sort of gratitude to Christopher Columbus.

    As someone who was actually born and raised in Brooklyn, I regret to inform you that not everyone listens to Biggie or listens to rap music. He is not some holy iconic figure who carries significant meaning to each and every brooklynite. He is simply a popular rapper and entertainer from Brooklyn. He is no more important of a figure than Jerry Seinfeld or anyone else. Rest assured the people of Brooklyn owe FAR more to Christopher Columbus than they do Notorious B.I.G.

    It should also be noted that while Big was a great rapper, he was also a criminal and a crack dealer. So he wasn't some perfect person either. Yet I don't see anyone campaigning to remove his statues or his murals. Kind of odd if you ask me. Almost as if there's a radical double standard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j3lademaster View Post
    That's because the Vikings discovered Greenland and thought it was a huge PoS. They did discover Iceland and a few did settle there, though.

    I think Columbus's claim to fame is that his discovery of the Caribbeans lead to new cartography that lead more Europeans there which ultimately resulted in settling in America eventually. How much 'credit' you want to give him is pretty speculative though, because he was given ships by Spain to find new spice trade routes to the Indies and thought he had landed there when he saw the natives. Yikes, imagine being literally the other side of the fvcking planet in terms of being off, talk about failing up.
    If we are using basic math his ***** was probably 2x or bigger than yours though.

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    Wtf is wrong with the OP and MAGA?

    This troubles them, but ICE detaining, ala Gestapo, US born and bred citizens for being against Trump is fine.

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    He didn’t discover or settle American proper, and he was a ruthless dick.
    There’s no real reason to venerate him, except to appease Italian immigrants.
    The melding of worlds was going to happen no matter what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 86Celtics View Post
    Wtf is wrong with the OP and MAGA?

    This troubles them, but ICE detaining, ala Gestapo, US born and bred citizens for being against Trump is fine.
    You were perfectly fine destroying the lives of everyday americans.

    https://x.com/Real_RobN/status/1915198329581166898

    ^ This guy was tricked into following a police escort into the capitol building and politely walked around for 14 minutes. You can see him on video. He was given 9 years in federal prison on a terrorism charge. 4 days later he hung himself.

    But sure, go have a bleeding heart for a bunch of illegal gang members.

    We're not the same. Remember that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    You were perfectly fine destroying the lives of everyday americans.

    https://x.com/Real_RobN/status/1915198329581166898

    ^ This guy was tricked into following a police escort into the capitol building and politely walked around for 14 minutes. You can see him on video. He was given 9 years in federal prison on a terrorism charge. 4 days later he hung himself.

    But sure, go have a bleeding heart for a bunch of illegal gang members.

    We're not the same. Remember that.
    He’s not from America. He’s another foreigner with no skin in the game.

    He’s probably a troll, if he is isn’t he has some sort of brain damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan View Post
    He’s not from America. He’s another foreigner with no skin in the game.

    He’s probably a troll, if he is isn’t he has some sort of brain damage.
    Well you would be the expert on brain damage, methy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3 View Post
    Well you would be the expert on brain damage, methy.
    You work at a library doing work that a literal mentally retarded person could do.

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    Methy's upset! Time for another drug-fueled posting binge

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    Methy's upset! Time for another drug-fueled posting binge
    Time for you to shelve some more books.

    Chop chop.

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