How Trump outsmarted China

[TheMan]

"This election is close"

"Trump is not winning Michigan"

"China has the upper hand in trade talks, they don't care about tariffs"

The Man, I think it's time to cancel the subscription to whatever news you watch.


We win again fam!

Deflect

[1987_Lakers]

Not for rare Earth minerals so it's not fully open... keep up.

That's why Trump just signed the rare earth mineral deal with Ukraine, keep up.

[1987_Lakers]

Hahaha, dude edited his post.

[TheMan]

That's why Trump just signed the rare earth mineral deal with Ukraine, keep up.

https://youtube.com/shorts/g01Lx9k3p...XGJ7JzcmdSIkvi

99.5% of heavy rare Earth minerals are separated in China. Having Ukrainian rare Earth minerals is basically useless to what the US needs

[TheMan]

Hahaha, dude edited his post.

So what, I was remembering that there are several types of rare Earth minerals, as the link explains.

That's why we have an edit option

[1987_Lakers]

https://youtube.com/shorts/g01Lx9k3p...XGJ7JzcmdSIkvi

99.5% of heavy rare Earth minerals are separated in China. Having Ukrainian rare Earth minerals is basically useless to what the US needs

Press secretary revealed that rare earth minerals were indeed discussed in the USA-China negotiations this weekend. I have no doubt they will be apart of the deal.

[warriorfan]

https://youtube.com/shorts/g01Lx9k3p...XGJ7JzcmdSIkvi

99.5% of heavy rare Earth minerals are separated in China. Having Ukrainian rare Earth minerals is basically useless to what the US needs

Imagine being a destitute beaner and spending literally all your spare time to try to fade America.

[TheMan]

Press secretary revealed that rare earth minerals were indeed discussed in the USA-China negotiations this weekend. I have no doubt they will be apart of the deal.

I would hope so, let's get this trade war BS over with...but they're not part of the deal rn. That's my point. So what concessions did China make to drop the tariffs significantly again?

[1987_Lakers]

[diamenz]

I would hope so, let's get this trade war BS over with...but they're not part of the deal rn. That's my point. So what concessions did China make to drop the tariffs significantly again?

there was no "deal". we have yet to get anything beneficial in all of this.

[TheMan]

there was no "deal". we have yet to get anything beneficial in all of this.

Tell that to OP, we're worse off after all this yet he somehow thinks Trump "won". Meanwhile the stock market lost a ton of money, the dollar was weakend and the rest of the world is now bypassing the US and making trade deals among themselves because the US won't even honor the same trade deals they sign.

Top economists from all over the world say this episode was more beneficial to China but he'll post a totally biased video from MAGA unknowns and claim we win again, fam!

[Baller234]

Tell that to OP, we're worse off after all this yet he somehow thinks Trump "won". Meanwhile the stock market lost a ton of money, the dollar was weakend and the rest of the world is now bypassing the US and making trade deals among themselves because the US won't even honor the same trade deals they sign.

Top economists from all over the world say this episode was more beneficial to China but he'll post a totally biased video from MAGA unknowns and claim we win again, fam!

Why would you believe the "top economists"? If they were so good with money as they claim to be, how come they aren't wealthy beyond all imagination themselves? How come they get paid meager salaries to weigh in on economics?

For every "expert" you can find that says what Trump is doing is terrible, I can find an "expert" who says it's great. I can also find actual billionaire investors who say what Trump is doing is great. So there's really no point in just throwing up your hands and saying "Hey the experts have spoken so there's nothing more for me to add.." If you're that swayed by expert opinion then how come only your experts count?

I take it you also believed the "top health experts" who swore up and down that covid came from a bat? Or the "top biological experts" when they told you that gender identity had a basis in biology? Yea... experts can be wrong. Experts can also be acting in bad faith.

The stock market is already creeping back up, so I don't know why you would even bring that up.

[Baller234]

Tell that to OP, we're worse off after all this yet he somehow thinks Trump "won". Meanwhile the stock market lost a ton of money, the dollar was weakend and the rest of the world is now bypassing the US and making trade deals among themselves because the US won't even honor the same trade deals they sign.

Top economists from all over the world say this episode was more beneficial to China but he'll post a totally biased video from MAGA unknowns and claim we win again, fam!

Why would you believe the "top economists"? If they were so good with money as they claim to be, how come they aren't wealthy beyond all imagination themselves? How come they get paid meager salaries to weigh in on economics?

For every "expert" you can find that says what Trump is doing is terrible, I can find an "expert" who says it's great. I can also find actual billionaire investors who say what Trump is doing is great. So there's really no point in just throwing up your hands and saying "Hey the experts have spoken so there's nothing more for me to add.." If you're that swayed by expert opinion then how come only your experts count?

I take it you also believed the "top health experts" who swore up and down that covid came from a bat? Or the "top biological experts" when they told you that gender identity had a basis in biology? Yea... experts can be wrong. Experts can also be acting in bad faith.

The stock market is already creeping back up, so I don't know why you would even bring that up.

[Baller234]

there was no "deal". we have yet to get anything beneficial in all of this.

Huh? They made a deal to drop the retaliatory tariffs and go back to doing business.


America’s Tariffs on China:

145% ---> 30%

China’s Tariffs on America:

125% ---> 10%


Trump challenged them to a game of chicken and won. Look who's paying more. Now we can make a trade deal under our terms.

[diamenz]

Huh? They made a deal to drop the retaliatory tariffs and go back to doing business.


America’s Tariffs on China:

145% ---> 30%

China’s Tariffs on America:

125% ---> 10%


Trump challenged them to a game of chicken and won. Look who's paying more. Now we can make a trade deal under our terms.

first off, regarding that 30% - 20% of that is from fentanyl. and you're kidding yourself if you think that's going to last.

now, yes - china lowered their tariffs in response to trump's threats of increasing tariffs on chinese goods. not the original tariffs they had - the extra tariffs they put in because of the extra tariffs that trump put in on "liberation day". so in the end, nothing's changed - there's no win here. we're back to square one sitting in the same boat we were before liberation day. plus prices here will continue to increase - that 30% is.... still high you know.