Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

[rmt]

Caruso is an all-nba defender and OKC arguably has the best defense over the last 25 years. They have a ton of elite defenders and Jokic still managed 28/14/6 on 59.2 TS%.

Guys like MJ, Kareem, Lebron, etc have all had many worse playoff series.

Caruso was on Jokic for long stretches of the game - single coverage giving up 6 inches and 100 lbs.

[tontoz]

it's ok to admit jokic choked. getting locked up by a 6'5 guard is embarrassing in a game 7, well in any game, but especially in an elimination game. no need to shift blame to teammates.

Getting locked up usually means scoring under 20 with poor shooting. When did that change? I must have missed the memo.

Feel free to point out any clips where Jokic put the ball on the deck and nobody came to help Caruso.

Here is a clip when the help came late and the result was predictable.

[Keno]

Jokic has some of the best impact/advanced stats of all time in the playoffs, in fact he's number 1 all time in a few of them.

But yeah, he TOTALLY has his impact decline in the playoffs...man yall just say anything.

hm, I looked into it more and yea, you were right my bad, he only significantly declined from regular season -> playoffs this year (2025), other years he was about the same if not better.

[tontoz]

Caruso was on Jokic for long stretches of the game - single coverage giving up 6 inches and 100 lbs.

Jokic had 20 pts through 3 quarters with high efficiency in spite of all the help Caruso got when Jokic put the ball on the deck. I don't think that is why they were down 25 after 3.

[StrongLurk]

Caruso was on Jokic for long stretches of the game - single coverage giving up 6 inches and 100 lbs.

Imagine thinking Caruso actually guarded Jokic 1-on-1 like this was low IQ 90's ball.

The WHOLE OKC defense schemed for Jokic. In fact, in game 7, they ONLY focused on Jokic because they knew MPJ and Gordon were completely injured and useless.

[StrongLurk]

Those are highly misleading stats. He went nuclear (honestly ATG performances) on two games and was total dogshit on 3 others, two of which OKC won that were winnable. He had a 3 game stretch shooting 48%.

Buddy, do you know how playoff series work? Do you know how averages work? Go think about the basics some more and get back to me.

[StrongLurk]

In a website that is run by insane player stans, I have to say I'm impressed what a pathetic NBA fan you are You're trying to justify a 7 footer getting locked up by a average sized guard since.. he's an all-NBA defender. In the same topic you created about him being the 4th best player of all time.

You're a complete retard.

Imagine thinking Caruso actually guarded Jokic 1-on-1 like this was low IQ 90's ball.

The WHOLE OKC defense schemed for Jokic. In fact, in game 7, they ONLY focused on Jokic because they knew MPJ and Gordon were completely injured and useless.

Jokic has never had a single teammate make an all-star, all-defense, or all-nba game.

Curry's whole career has been littered with stacked talent, tons of all-nba/all-defense guys, and even had Kevin Durant completely snatch away two FMVPs from him because Curry kept getting stomped by Lebron.

Jokic with Curry's teammates over the last 12 years has 6 chips and 4 or 5 FMVPs.

Jokic took a 68-win OKC team to a game 7 with an injured MPJ and Aaron Gordon. He had a really good series against an all-time great defense. His TEAM was completely outmatched.

This doesn't take anything away from Jokic, in fact, it continues to validate his GOAT impact.

[highwhey]

Getting locked up usually means scoring under 20 with poor shooting. When did that change? I must have missed the memo.

Feel free to point out any clips where Jokic put the ball on the deck and nobody came to help Caruso.

Here is a clip when the help came late and the result was predictable.

you're being dense my guy, but do you.

[tontoz]

you're being dense my guy, but do you.

No, I am just stating what actually happened. He scored 20 on high efficiency through 3 quarters. That is just a fact but you ignore it because it doesn't fit your narrative.

Looking forward to those Suns-Wizards pic swaps going forward. We can use the extra lottery balls

[highwhey]

No, I am just stating what actually happened. He scored 20 on high efficiency through 3 quarters. That is just a fact but you ignore it because it doesn't fit your narrative.

Looking forward to those Suns-Wizards pic swaps going forward. We can use the extra lottery balls

he choked. he didn't lead his team in that game, often being passive bc caruso was frustrating him. 20pts in an elimination playoff game is good? LOL. not for a 'superstar'.

[tontoz]

he choked. he didn't lead his team in that game, often being passive bc caruso was frustrating him. 20pts in an elimination playoff game is good? LOL. not for a 'superstar'.

Whether it was good or not is debatable. But saying he got shut down is nonsense. He still led the team in scoring and assists as usual.

They weren't winning that game with Gordon and MPJ playing with injuries that would keep them out in the regular season.

[highwhey]

Whether it was good or not is debatable. But saying he got shut down is nonsense. He still led the team in scoring and assists as usual.

They weren't winning that game with Gordon and MPJ playing with injuries that would keep them out in the regular season.

[StrongLurk]

Whether it was good or not is debatable. But saying he got shut down is nonsense. He still led the team in scoring and assists as usual.

They weren't winning that game with Gordon and MPJ playing with injuries that would keep them out in the regular season.

Bro, stop using facts and reality-based assessment. These morons can't handle it.

[GOBB]

In a website that is run by insane player stans, I have to say I'm impressed what a pathetic NBA fan you are You're trying to justify a 7 footer getting locked up by a average sized guard since.. he's an all-NBA defender. In the same topic you created about him being the 4th best player of all time.

You're a complete retard.

Burn.

[gengiskhan]

He aint even 14th best GOAT.

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