Jokic is the 4th best player of all time

[tontoz]

Because Denver fluked out Game 1? Because they also won a game in OT where Jokic had 20 points on 25 shots with 6 assists to 8 turnovers? I suppose that was a "good" game as well?

OKC had 74 steals, the most steals in any Playoff series in the modern era. OKC created a lot of turnovers because of how predictable the Denver offense is with how reliant they are on Jokic doing the passing and the bulk of the scoring. They could deny him the ball and use smaller defenders to poke the ball away from him, that's easier vs. a big man who has a higher center of gravity which they exploited. 16 STEALS in Game 7, the most in any Game 7 since the damn 70s. Not only do you get an empty possession on offense but it's almost a guaranteed 2 on the other end.

Fluke wins? How about the games where Denver had 8-9 point leads in the 4th and lost? Do those count as "fluke wins" for OKC or do comebacks only count as flukes for Denver?

A big reason Jokic is so effective is that if you double him he can pass over the defense to find open teammates. The big problem in this series is that MPJ is playing with one arm and is only averaging 7 ppg with a TS of 42%. That made them much easier to defend all series, then in the last game Gordon was playing hurt which made them that much easier to defend.

With a healthy MPJ Denver probably wins in 6.

The only games OKC has lost in the playoffs have been to shorthanded Denver. Why is that?

[ImKobe]

Fluke wins? How about the games where Denver had 8-9 point leads in the 4th and lost? Do those count as "fluke wins" for OKC or do comebacks only count as flukes for Denver?

A big reason Jokic is so effective is that if you double him he can pass over the defense to find open teammates. The big problem in this series is that MPJ is playing with one arm and is only averaging 7 ppg with a TS of 42%. That made them much easier to defend all series, then in the last game Gordon was playing hurt which made them that much easier to defend.

With a healthy MPJ Denver probably wins in 6.

The only games OKC has lost in the playoffs have been to shorthanded Denver. Why is that?

God you're so delusional it's not even worth entertaining. Best of luck.

[tontoz]

God you're so delusional it's not even worth entertaining. Best of luck.

Im delusional? Why is that, because i actually look at the facts?

What injuries was OKC struggling with?

[warriorfan]

OKC is looking like a juggernaut team and MPJ and Gordon were severely limited with injuries.

Anyone who isn’t taking into account the circumstances and trying to paint Jokic in as bad as light possible are just being low iq or pretty blatantly trolling.

Im not even a big Jokic fan but let’s keep shit real.

[ImKobe]

Im delusional? Why is that, because i actually look at the facts?

What injuries was OKC struggling with?

It's not the injuries that caused the Nuggets to struggle offensively... They took away the Jokic-Murray 2 man game but ok. Jokic is not a high turnover player, they made him turn the ball over almost as much as he has ever (his 2nd worst 7-game series), using smaller defenders to limit his ability to handle the ball or even catch it for that matter.

They made the Caruso on Jokic adjustment at the end of Game 6 and had a lot of success with it, almost bringing that game back. They went back to it in G7 and Nuggets had no answer for it.

[tontoz]

It's not the injuries that caused the Nuggets to struggle offensively... They took away the Jokic-Murray 2 man game but ok. Jokic is not a high turnover player, they made him turn the ball over almost as much as he has ever (his 2nd worst 7-game series), using smaller defenders to limit his ability to handle the ball or even catch it for that matter.

They made the Caruso on Jokic adjustment at the end of Game 6 and had a lot of success with it, almost bringing that game back. They went back to it in G7 and Nuggets had no answer for it.

Why didn't they start game 7 with Caruso on Jokic then? Why did they just "let" him drop 17 in the first half?

A big problem for Denver's offense is that their primary 3 pt shooter couldn't shoot. MPJ had 4 games where he didn't make a 3. That makes it a lot easier to defend Denver.

[tontoz]

They made the Caruso on Jokic adjustment at the end of Game 6 and had a lot of success with it, almost bringing that game back. They went back to it in G7 and Nuggets had no answer for it.

Denver scored 61 in the 2nd half of game 6 and won by 12. They extended their lead in the 4th.

[Mask the Embiid]

This is the last time you will see me enter a thread like this because its really no point anymore. This convo is so dead now.

Its ova! its ovaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ladies and gentlemen (kenny smith voice)

[tontoz]

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