Ukraine Drone Footage Bombing Russian Planes

[diamenz]

You're talking to a person with a limited IQ, who literally believes, because the media told him so, that Putin just randomly woke up one day and to the shock of everyone decided to attack Ukraine. No preplanning, just the same day, right after getting up from bed, leaving everybody confused and in shock, in the same manner they would be confused if Russia randomly attacked Madagascar, or Angola. He also believes that Putin bombed his own pipeline. It is what it is.

don't forget the part about how putin wants not just eastern but western ukraine as well. then when he's done with that he wants eastern europe and the baltic states.

[diamenz]

I tried to, I'd have to watch through like 100 hours of rants to find the one part where a guy says the numbers are the opposite of what is reported.

It would also be like the "10th" source too. I found foreign estimates. I mean, everyone's estimates are the opposite or yours. You may want to consider that you're off here.

enjoy the episodes in the meantime then. maybe you'll learn a thing or two.

but believe whatever you want bill. i'm not gonna plead.

[Bill Gates]

but believe whatever you want bill. i'm not gonna plead.

Do you know what "implore" means?

[Bill Gates]

You're talking to a person with a limited IQ, who literally believes, because the media told him so, that Putin just randomly woke up one day and to the shock of everyone decided to attack Ukraine. No preplanning, just the same day, right after getting up from bed, leaving everybody confused and in shock, in the same manner they would be confused if Russia randomly attacked Madagascar, or Angola. He also believes that Putin bombed his own pipeline. It is what it is.

what?

link to me saying this?

[Bill Gates]

https://www.csis.org/analysis/russia...d-woes-ukraine

Is this fake news MSM? Even if you think that it is fake, it is still more than anything you or jstern has brought to the table. Which is searching through hours of audio for something that probably doesn't even exist. You both just WANT Russia to win, and the outcome that you've dreamed up in your heads reflects that partisan thinking. If what I am saying isn't true? SHOW US SOMETHING REAL.

[diamenz]

https://www.csis.org/analysis/russia...d-woes-ukraine

Is this fake news MSM? Even if you think that it is fake, it is still more than anything you or jstern has brought to the table. Which is searching through hours of audio for something that probably doesn't even exist. You both just WANT Russia to win, and the outcome that you've dreamed up in your heads reflects that partisan thinking. If what I am saying isn't true? SHOW US SOMETHING REAL.

you're focusing on one small snapshot of the big picture. no one is saying "russia wins, flawless victory... fatality". of course russia has had and continues to have their setbacks but again, anyone that's been following this war for the past two years, as long as they're not as easily taken on an emotional roller coaster ride from cover story to cover story as you are, knows where this is inevitably headed.

i don't want russia to win and what a stupid thing to get hung up on. i just want this nonsense to be over and for both ukrainians and russians to stop dying on account of our stubborness to admit mistake and failure in a war's outcome that's already long been decided.

[Bill Gates]

you're focusing on one small snapshot of the big picture. no one is saying "russia wins, flawless victory... fatality". of course russia has had and continues to have their setbacks but again, anyone that's been following this war for the past two years, as long as they're not as easily taken on an emotional roller coaster ride from cover story to cover story as you are, knows where this is inevitably headed.

i don't want russia to win and what a stupid thing to get hung up on. i just want this nonsense to be over and for both ukrainians and russians to stop dying on account of our stubborness to admit mistake and failure in a war's outcome that's already long been decided.

Yes you have already pre-determined this war's ending, and your "estimates" that are no where to be found reflect your decided conclusion. But I will say to you that I think you are narrowly viewing this as a war between Russia and Ukraine. Russia is at war with Euro Union, and if you think the US Military Complex is going to throw away all they have done simply because Trump is in office? That is more gullible than buying into MSM narratives, which are hit and miss.

[diamenz]

Yes you have already pre-determined this war's ending, and your "estimates" that are no where to be found reflect your decided conclusion. But I will say to you that I think you are narrowly viewing this as a war between Russia and Ukraine. Russia is at war with Euro Union, and if you think the US Military Complex is going to throw away all they have done simply because Trump is in office? That is more gullible than buying into MSM narratives, which are hit and miss.

yes, the eu is helping fund this disaster but their support is minimal compared to ours, especially militarily. if we pulled out today, they alone would not have the resources to pick up our slack the next time ukraine comes calling for another supplemental. we are the primary ones fueling this.

it's true that the us is arguably too far invested to just pull out now but we have to face the music one way or another and the longer this drags on the more and more of a bloodbath it becomes as well as the added risk of nuclear escalation. moscow sees this conflict as existential. in the end, putin is going to take what he wants in eastern ukraine and without the us putting troops on the ground it's only a matter of time before that ends up happening.

[Bill Gates]

yes, the eu is helping fund this disaster but their support is minimal compared to ours, especially militarily. if we pulled out today, they alone would not have the resources to pick up our slack the next time ukraine comes calling for another supplemental. we are the primary ones fueling this.

it's true that the us is arguably too far invested to just pull out now but we have to face the music one way or another and the longer this drags on the more and more of a bloodbath it becomes as well as the added risk of nuclear escalation. moscow sees this conflict as existential. in the end, putin is going to take what he wants in eastern ukraine and without the us putting troops on the ground it's only a matter of time before that ends up happening.

First off he wants all of Ukraine. Kyiv was invaded very early in the war, and they could not capture it. So even if Russia ends up with only East Ukraine that could be seen as worth the effort and lives lost. But second, you have to understand that many in Ukraine would in fact rather die than give up their home to Putin. Your view is to just run away, declare that Russia is too big and scary, and minimize the loss. But for many who live there, that is a worse option than the "meat grinder".

[diamenz]

First off he wants all of Ukraine. Kyiv was invaded very early in the war, and they could not capture it. So even if Russia ends up with only East Ukraine that could be seen as worth the effort and lives lost. But second, you have to understand that many in Ukraine would in fact rather die than give up their home to Putin. Your view is to just run away, declare that Russia is too big and scary, and minimize the loss. But for many who live there, that is a worse option than the "meat grinder".

who told you that??? i have no idea why you keep simping for the msm. all they do is regurgitate what our government tells them - they're literally stenographers for the deep state. you're taking information from a government that's blatantly lied to us for decades and beyond about wars and foreign affairs, at face value. what the hell are you smoking?

first of all, the country of ukraine is no monolith when it comes to culture, language and ethnicity. eastern ukraine is for the most part, russian in that regard. western ukraine is, you guessed it - hard nosed ukrainian. in the middle where the river divides it, a river that you've probably never even heard of and couldn't pronounce if you tried, is a mixture of both.

i hope that you can at least acknowledge that putin is no idiot. on the contrary, he's demonstrated himself to be very intelligent whether people like it or not. now why would putin want to govern hard-nosed ukrainians, much less Poles or anything west of the ukrainian border? he'd be faced with neverending unrest from the population. this is not a serious argument. it's foolish... and who in their right mind would want to govern the mess that is eastern europe to boot? furthermore, the army that he currently has deployed has nowhere near the number that he would need to achieve such a feat. in addition to that, he's almost wise enough to recognize and realize the consequences he would face for doing so. just quit while you're ahead dude. you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

[Bill Gates]

Putin wants control of the Ukraine Government (aka the entire country). Like I said, early on Russia went directly for the Capital Kyiv. They wouldn't have done that if they only wanted the East. It isn't even about land, he wants control of the country itself.

If he only wanted the East? The war would be over right now. Because Russia has control of the East. They are still fighting, because they want it all.

[Bill Gates]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kyiv_(2022)


Read this please.

At the start of this war, Putin went directly for the Capital City Kyiv. He was hoping to capture the entire country with that right from the get go. Boom war over.

3 years ago, and Russia has been confined to the East for so long now that many probably forgot this even happened.

[Meticode]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kyiv_(2022)


Read this please.

At the start of this war, Putin went directly for the Capital City Kyiv. He was hoping to capture the entire country with that right from the get go. Boom war over.

3 years ago, and Russia has been confined to the East for so long now that many probably forgot this even happened.

The drawn out process of the war just shows how weak their military is. It's not a great superpower in terms of hardware and boots on the ground. Their main threat has been nukes for decades now.

[jstern]

https://www.csis.org/analysis/russia...d-woes-ukraine

Is this fake news MSM? Even if you think that it is fake, it is still more than anything you or jstern has brought to the table. Which is searching through hours of audio for something that probably doesn't even exist. You both just WANT Russia to win, and the outcome that you've dreamed up in your heads reflects that partisan thinking. If what I am saying isn't true? SHOW US SOMETHING REAL.

You are dumb, you have a low IQ. You don't have brain of your own, you cannot think for yourself, so you adopt the opinions of CNN and anything with a fancy titles and consider yourself intelligent, not for actually using your brain for anything, but for adopting their opinion. You're particularly useful for propaganda and are what they would call a useful idiot.

And I was thinking about this the other day, because it's very Blade like, so it might be a cultural thing. Because I think in India, titles are very important. Though I'm only basing that on the couple of Indians that I've known.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Kyiv_(2022)


Read this please.

At the start of this war, Putin went directly for the Capital City Kyiv. He was hoping to capture the entire country with that right from the get go. Boom war over.

3 years ago, and Russia has been confined to the East for so long now that many probably forgot this even happened.

When the war in Ukraine started, and the Joe Biden crowd started with the propaganda that they wanted to take the whole of Ukraine, for people like you, everyone that knew anything, which includes the US, knew that wasn't the case, due to the simple fact that Russia threw in 150,000 soldiers, which was the right amount for their stated goal. Where as if they wanted to take over the whole country, they would have needed at east one million.

[BurningHammer]