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06-17-2025, 10:39 PM
#181
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
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06-18-2025, 12:15 AM
#182
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
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06-18-2025, 01:01 AM
#183
2011
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
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06-18-2025, 01:13 AM
#184
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
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06-18-2025, 05:57 AM
#185
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
Don't get 9/11d again dear Americans. Trump is gonna drag this one out
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06-18-2025, 10:30 AM
#186
It is what it is
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
If Trump does fully inject the US military in this Israel v Iran conflict, this would easily be the worst first 6 months of a presidency. Trump looking to wreck his legacy, like he doesn't care how he will be viewed historically, what a weak man, instead of standing on his own stated principles...must be so disappointing for his cult members.
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06-18-2025, 11:05 AM
#187
2011
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
 Originally Posted by TheMan
If Trump does fully inject the US military in this Israel v Iran conflict, this would easily be the worst first 6 months of a presidency. Trump looking to wreck his legacy, like he doesn't care how he will be viewed historically, what a weak man, instead of standing on his own stated principles...must be so disappointing for his cult members.
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06-18-2025, 11:13 AM
#188
It is what it is
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
This is a masterclass in geopolitics and economic strategy with the aim of keeping US imperialism in tact...
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06-18-2025, 11:38 AM
#189
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
 Originally Posted by TheMan
If Trump does fully inject the US military in this Israel v Iran conflict, this would easily be the worst first 6 months of a presidency. Trump looking to wreck his legacy, like he doesn't care how he will be viewed historically, what a weak man, instead of standing on his own stated principles...must be so disappointing for his cult members.
The only thing that would really shake things up is if China or Russia gets involved. Otherwise if the conflict is over swiftly and our involvement is limited to airstrikes, and we experience very little pain as a result, and Trump can tout "victory"... then I think the average person will stop caring about this in a few months.
The average person doesn't care about war unless it impacts them personally. They care even less about which regime is in charge over in Iran.
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06-18-2025, 12:20 PM
#190
It is what it is
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
 Originally Posted by Baller234
The only thing that would really shake things up is if China or Russia gets involved. Otherwise if the conflict is over swiftly and our involvement is limited to airstrikes, and we experience very little pain as a result, and Trump can tout "victory"... then I think the average person will stop caring about this in a few months.
The average person doesn't care about war unless it impacts them personally. They care even less about which regime is in charge over in Iran.
We said that before in Iraq and Afghanistan, how'd that go?
Check out the video, if you look at it by the perspective laid out in the video, the end goal is isolate to China. If China were smart, they along with Russia, will back militarily Iran to bog down the US and Israel to thwart their end goals. But then it gets into dangerous territory where an all out war between superpowers can start.
Trump flat out lied when he said no new wars, don't just glaze over that like it doesn't mean anything. If there was ONE thing I agreed with MAGA, it was their no more endless wars but turns out Trump is exactly the same as those before him, probably maybe even worse because he flat out lied and is being so brazen about starting wars. Bro wants his war like all the warmongers before him SMH.
Last edited by TheMan; 06-18-2025 at 12:24 PM.
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06-18-2025, 02:30 PM
#191
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
 Originally Posted by Baller234
The only thing that would really shake things up is if China or Russia gets involved. Otherwise if the conflict is over swiftly and our involvement is limited to airstrikes, and we experience very little pain as a result, and Trump can tout "victory"... then I think the average person will stop caring about this in a few months.
The average person doesn't care about war unless it impacts them personally. They care even less about which regime is in charge over in Iran.
 Originally Posted by TheMan
We said that before in Iraq and Afghanistan, how'd that go?
Check out the video, if you look at it by the perspective laid out in the video, the end goal is isolate to China. If China were smart, they along with Russia, will back militarily Iran to bog down the US and Israel to thwart their end goals. But then it gets into dangerous territory where an all out war between superpowers can start.
Trump flat out lied when he said no new wars, don't just glaze over that like it doesn't mean anything. If there was ONE thing I agreed with MAGA, it was their no more endless wars but turns out Trump is exactly the same as those before him, probably maybe even worse because he flat out lied and is being so brazen about starting wars. Bro wants his war like all the warmongers before him SMH.
yeah, he ran his campaign on that and is turning out to be no different than the neocons that MAGA "hates". everything he has said, promised has turned out to be a lie.
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06-18-2025, 02:34 PM
#192
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
the iron dome
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06-18-2025, 04:13 PM
#193
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
 Originally Posted by TheMan
We said that before in Iraq and Afghanistan, how'd that go?
Check out the video, if you look at it by the perspective laid out in the video, the end goal is isolate to China. If China were smart, they along with Russia, will back militarily Iran to bog down the US and Israel to thwart their end goals. But then it gets into dangerous territory where an all out war between superpowers can start.
Trump flat out lied when he said no new wars, don't just glaze over that like it doesn't mean anything. If there was ONE thing I agreed with MAGA, it was their no more endless wars but turns out Trump is exactly the same as those before him, probably maybe even worse because he flat out lied and is being so brazen about starting wars. Bro wants his war like all the warmongers before him SMH.
You're not gonna change anyone's mind shouting "Trump lied" because most people knew Trump was a shameless liar when they voted for him. Every single person that ever ran for president lied on the campaign trail. There was no way to vote in the last election and not cast your vote for a liar, so that's a moot point.
Iran is a major power center when it comes to our Islamic adversaries, so if Trump and his allies (handlers) believe the west is in a position of strength to weaken the mothership without much cost to us then what's the problem? If the cost becomes too great and the war ends up jeopardizing the safety and stability of our country, then sure it will have been a colossal failure and Trump will go out in shame. But do we know that's bound to happen?
What if Iran is defeated handily and without much sacrifice? You think the average person is going to care? I don't.
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06-18-2025, 04:23 PM
#194
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
 Originally Posted by Baller234
You're not gonna change anyone's mind shouting "Trump lied" because most people knew Trump was a shameless liar when they voted for him. Every single person that ever ran for president lied on the campaign trail. There was no way to vote in the last election and not cast your vote for a liar, so that's a moot point.
Iran is a major power center when it comes to our Islamic adversaries, so if Trump and his allies (handlers) believe the west is in a position of strength to weaken the mothership without much cost to us then what's the problem? If the cost becomes too great and the war ends up jeopardizing the safety and stability of our country, then sure it will have been a colossal failure and Trump will go out in shame. But do we know that's bound to happen?
What if Iran is defeated handily and without much sacrifice? You think the average person is going to care? I don't.
top 3 mental gymnastics game on ish
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06-18-2025, 04:32 PM
#195
Re: Israel Appears Ready to Attack Iran, Officials in U.S. and Europe Say
 Originally Posted by highwhey
top 3 mental gymnastics game on ish 
I have never once claimed Trump wasn't a liar.
This is the same guy who said he would miraculously overhaul the healthcare system. That didn't happen. He said he would be able to stop these wars on Day 1. That didn't happen. All politicians throw shit at the wall.
He said the vaccine was super terrific and everyone should get it. Never once thought about getting vaccinated.
Not going to shed tears because of a regime change in Iran, not unless it hurts us.
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