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06-25-2025, 08:59 AM
#271
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06-25-2025, 09:01 AM
#272
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Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
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06-25-2025, 09:15 AM
#273
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Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
 Originally Posted by highwhey
A U.S. intelligence report suggests that Iran's nuclear program has been set back by only a few months after U.S. strikes, and was not "completely and fully obliterated" as U.S. President Donald Trump has said, according to two people familiar with the early assessment.
This looks more like propaganda as the hours go by. The IAEA (International Atomic Energy Agency) director came out and said the attacks were significant. Even Obama's old CIA director David Petraeus said they set Iran's nuclear program back several years, not months.
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06-25-2025, 09:36 AM
#274
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Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/...053b6q6gzxmj39
Iran’s nuclear installations were "badly damaged" in US and Israeli attacks, Iranian spokesperson says
“Our nuclear installations have been badly damaged, that’s for sure, because it has come under repeated attacks by Israeli and American aggressors,” Baghaei told Al Jazeera.
Looks like some posters here fell for fake news.
 Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
This story originally came from CNN by Natasha Bertrand. Same person who said the Hunter Biden laptop story was Russian propaganda, we know how that ended..
I tried to warn you.
Last edited by 1987_Lakers; 06-25-2025 at 09:48 AM.
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06-25-2025, 10:25 AM
#275
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Last edited by diamenz; 06-25-2025 at 10:29 AM.
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06-25-2025, 10:30 AM
#276
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Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
 Originally Posted by diamenz
what incentive would iranian officials have to say otherwise?
"damage was minimal. please hurt us some more".
Israel report is about to come out confirming the significant damage done by the U.S.
You guys got duped, no worries. It happens at times.
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06-25-2025, 10:31 AM
#277
Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
 Originally Posted by diamenz
will we ever truly know the extent of the damage? or even more intriguing is the question of whether or not the rumors are true that the nuclear sites were moved years ago and these were just left as decoys knowing this day would ultimately come? is iran the one playing 3d chess and currently sitting on 89% enriched uranium? probably not but it would be the plot twist of the century.
You're right we don't know. Everyone could be lying. Every country involved has incentive to lie. To each other and to it's own people. Not only that, there are media factions within our own country with their own allegiances. One channel says everything is going great, the other channel says everything is going wrong. I'm not saying everyone is lying to you all at all times, but when it comes to politics everyone has *incentive* to lie to you.
So what do we know for certain:
- Israel was on the offensive unopposed for 11 days even before the US strikes
- Many of Iran's top leaders and scientists have been killed
- All of their nuclear related sites have been destroyed and will likely be under heavy monitoring
- When it was time for Iran's hail mary counter attack, it dealt minimal damage at best
- Iran went back to their corner and stopped fighting when they were told to
From the outside looking in, it doesn't look like Iran is in a position of strength whatsoever. This has to be a major setback for them.
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06-25-2025, 10:35 AM
#278
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Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
Looks like the report might have already came out actually.
Israel Atomic Energy Commission says US strike on Fordow "destroyed the site’s critical infrastructure"
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east...trikes/3612934
Israel claimed on Wednesday that its military offensive on Iran has caused years of delay in the Iranian nuclear program.
“We assess that the American strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities, combined with Israeli strikes on other elements of Iran's military nuclear program, has set back Iran's ability to develop nuclear weapons by many years,” Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office said in a statement.
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06-25-2025, 10:37 AM
#279
well endowed member
Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
 Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
Israel report is about to come out confirming the significant damage done by the U.S.
You guys got duped, no worries. It happens at times.
what credible knowledge would they hold? i mean, if you like what you hear then by all means, fall in line so you can rest easy.
you're the one that's being duped. you're being led on a ring around the rosie with every article you read and every youtube video you watch that fits your narrative instead of just taking a breath and using your head.
no one aside from iran knows the extent of the damage dealt and to take their word at face value would be also be foolish.
please tell me you realize this. i need to know for my own sanity.
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06-25-2025, 10:39 AM
#280
well endowed member
Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
 Originally Posted by Baller234
You're right we don't know. Everyone could be lying. Every country involved has incentive to lie. To each other and to it's own people. Not only that, there are media factions within our own country with their own allegiances. One channel says everything is going great, the other channel says everything is going wrong. I'm not saying everyone is lying to you all at all times, but when it comes to politics everyone has *incentive* to lie to you.
So what do we know for certain:
- Israel was on the offensive unopposed for 11 days even before the US strikes
- Many of Iran's top leaders and scientists have been killed
- All of their nuclear related sites have been destroyed and will likely be under heavy monitoring
- When it was time for Iran's hail mary counter attack, it dealt minimal damage at best
- Iran went back to their corner and stopped fighting when they were told to
From the outside looking in, it doesn't look like Iran is in a position of strength whatsoever. This has to be a major setback for them.
exactly.
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06-25-2025, 10:41 AM
#281
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
 Originally Posted by diamenz
what credible knowledge would they hold? i mean, if you like what you hear then by all means, fall in line so you can rest easy.
you're the one that's being duped. you're being led on a ring around the rosie with every article you read and every youtube video you watch that fits your narrative instead of just taking a breath and using your head.
no one aside from iran knows the extent of the damage dealt and to take their word at face value would be also be foolish.
please tell me you realize this. i need to know for my own sanity.
The denial is real.
Both Iran and Israel just confirmed the damages. Along with the International Atomic Energy Agency.
You got duped son.
Last edited by 1987_Lakers; 06-25-2025 at 10:46 AM.
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06-25-2025, 10:43 AM
#282
well endowed member
Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
 Originally Posted by Baller234
From the outside looking in, it doesn't look like Iran is in a position of strength whatsoever. This has to be a major setback for them.
so the question becomes what ability do they have to rebuild? what outside help might they receive from other outside entities? are they starting from scratch from both a material and headcount standpoint?
the key now is how much time they're allowed before israel or the us make another move. and while we're not knowing, it gives our governments all the more urgency to take further action.
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06-25-2025, 10:51 AM
#283
Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
 Originally Posted by diamenz
so the question becomes what ability do they have to rebuild? what outside help might they receive from other outside entities? are they starting from scratch from both a material and headcount standpoint?
the key now is how much time they're allowed before israel or the us make another move. and while we're not knowing, it gives our governments all the more urgency to take further action.
Who cares if they plan on rebuilding? It's obvious they'll never have the chance to do anything. If they rebuild their shit will just get wrecked again.
Also I think if anyone were in a position to help Iran, they would have already. Doesn't look like they have any strong allies in the region. Absolutely no one was willing to stick their neck out for them.
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06-25-2025, 11:41 AM
#284
well endowed member
Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
 Originally Posted by Baller234
Who cares if they plan on rebuilding? It's obvious they'll never have the chance to do anything. If they rebuild their shit will just get wrecked again.
Also I think if anyone were in a position to help Iran, they would have already. Doesn't look like they have any strong allies in the region. Absolutely no one was willing to stick their neck out for them.
it wouldn't be wise to underestimate them. once the smoke clears any other players in the region would have their own interests in seeing the iran regime staying in place as long as possible as they likely see themselves as being next on our list. especially countries that are sympathetic to the palestinian cause. outside of the region, you have powerful countries that have their own interests in not seeing iran destroyed and the us assuming control of those oil fields that their economies rely on. there's no telling what may take shape in stalling things out and getting iran back in the game.. again, that's why time is critical. israel and the us realize this and the pressure to take action because of it should be obvious. they want this over and done with, not having to strike them again and again hoping for the best.
in regard to trump, his frustration is clear. he doesn't want this stain on his resume. in all likelihood, he'll tell israel that they got what they want and that he's through. he'll do whatever he can to hold israel at bay now. he's not going to be their tool on the world stage and be led around by the nose by israel. his ego is too grand to allow it.
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06-25-2025, 11:55 AM
#285
Re: Trump just bombed Iran. ANTI WAR DOE!!!!!
 Originally Posted by diamenz
it wouldn't be wise to underestimate them. once the smoke clears any other players in the region would have their own interests in seeing the iran regime staying in place as long as possible as they likely see themselves as being next on our list. especially countries that are sympathetic to the palestinian cause. outside of the region, you have powerful countries that have their own interests in not seeing iran destroyed and the us assuming control of those oil fields that their economies rely on. there's no telling what may take shape in stalling things out and getting iran back in the game.. again, that's why time is critical. israel and the us realize this and the pressure to take action because of it should be obvious. they want this over and done with, not having to strike them again and again hoping for the best.
in regard to trump, his frustration is clear. he doesn't want this stain on his resume. in all likelihood, he'll tell israel that they got what they want and that he's through. he'll do whatever he can to hold israel at bay now. he's not going to be their tool on the world stage and be led around by the nose by israel. his ego is too grand to allow it.
So does this put to rest the theory that Trump is owned by Darth Netanyahu?
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