The Top 10 Defenders in NBA History (In terms of impact)

[1987_Lakers]

KG replaced Ryan Gomes.

Rondo in his second year got a significantly bigger role. No more Telfair.

Ray Allen was playing instead of Delonte West.

Perk played a lot more minutes at C instead of Al Jefferson.


KG was the anchor of the defense obviously but the 2008 team was very different from the 2007.

Rondo was far from his prime & since when was Allen a defensive stopper?

2013 Celtics: #7 on defense
2014 Celtics: #18 (No KG)

This is old man KG btw.

[warriorfan]

Rondo was far from his prime & since when was Allen a defensive stopper?

2013 Celtics: #7 on defense
2014 Celtics: #18 (No KG)

This is old man KG btw.

The team was obviously a lot better in 2008 for many reasons.

Rondo >Telfair
Allen isn’t a known stopper but he isn’t a slouch and a much higher iq and better player than Delonte West

A competitive team will naturally have better defense. Correlation doesn’t equal causation.

2007 Celtics were basically a 60 loss team. In tons of those games it becomes a blow out and it’s not a competitive game.

KG obviously is a huge factor but you are lumping all these other factors in and crediting it all to KG, which is inaccurate.

[1987_Lakers]

The team was obviously a lot better in 2008 for many reasons.

Rondo >Telfair
Allen isn’t a known stopper but he isn’t a slouch and a much higher iq and better player than Delonte West

A competitive team will naturally have better defense. Correlation doesn’t equal causation.

2007 Celtics were basically a 60 loss team. In tons of those games it becomes a blow out and it’s not a competitive game.

I agree with Rondo/Perkins getting more playing time it contributed to them being better on defense, I just find it odd how you mention Ray Allen as some plus defensively over Delonte West, when West was always known as a plus defender. Allen wasn't some upgrade over him on defense.

[1987_Lakers]

Even then, Perkins only played a few more minutes per game in 2008 compared to 2007 for Boston.

With what you said, the only real difference was Rondo and of course KG. And Rondo was still green. (no pun)

You could have gone with the Tony Allen route, who played more games in 2008, but instead went with Ray Allen.

[warriorfan]

Even then, Perkins only played a few more minutes per game in 2008 compared to 2007 for Boston.

With what you said, the only real difference was Rondo and of course KG. And Rondo was still green. (no pun)

You could have gone with the Tony Allen route, who played more games in 2008, but instead went with Ray Allen.

You are low iq and don’t understand how offense influences defense.

[Carbine]

Wemby should be on there if it's just about impact

[Xiao Yao You]

Wemby should be on there if it's just about impact

Than you would have to put walton if we are going on limited games

[97 bulls]

1. Bill Russell
2. Hakeem Olajuwon
3. David Robinson
4. Dikembe Mutombo
5. Tim Duncan
6. Kevin Garnett
7. Ben Wallace
8. Draymond Green
9. Dwight Howard
10. Nate Thurmond

HM: Wilt, Gobert, Pippen, Ewing (overshadowed by Hakeem & Robinson)

How did Green make the list over Pippen?

[L.Kizzle]

135 games of Bill Russell data where he avg 8.1 blocks
112 games of Wilt Chamberlain data where he avg 8.8 blocks.
Wilt one blocked Walt Bellamys first 9 shots because "he wanted to."
This would be like Hakeem blocking Alonzo Mourning first 9 shots because he wanted to.
Old Laker career blocked Kareems sky-hook twice in a row.

Go head and add Wilt Chamberlain bruh and stop playing.

[tpols]

135 games of Bill Russell data where he avg 8.1 blocks
112 games of Wilt Chamberlain data where he avg 8.8 blocks.
Wilt one blocked Walt Bellamys first 9 shots because "he wanted to."
This would be like Hakeem blocking Alonzo Mourning first 9 shots because he wanted to.
Old Laker career blocked Kareems sky-hook twice in a row.

Go head and add Wilt Chamberlain bruh and stop playing.

Wilt is probably the most disrespected GOAT.

The guy was literally 7 foot black superman. And scrubs get placed ahead of him.

[1987_Lakers]

You are low iq and don’t understand how offense influences defense.

You are low IQ who doesn't know how to refute what I said.

[1987_Lakers]

How did Green make the list over Pippen?

Better at guarding 1-5
Better rim protector
Better off-ball defender

Just a bit more versatile and more of an anchor. Steve Kerr played with peak Pippen and has said Draymond is the better defender.

[diamenz]

no wind defenders?

[1987_Lakers]

no wind defenders?

Damn, you went way back in time. I remember that thread from around 2015.

[Xiao Yao You]

Better at guarding 1-5
Better rim protector
Better off-ball defender

Just a bit more versatile and more of an anchor. Steve Kerr played with peak Pippen and has said Draymond is the better defender.

Toughest era to defend in.. only 1 from that era top 10?