NBA Mount Rushmore of Sidekicks

[Lebron23]

1. Scottie Pippen, 2. Kobe Bryant, 3. Dwayne Wade, 4. Kevin McHale

[3ba11]

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2009 Mo............. 17.8 ppg...... #3 team defense
1991 Pippen....... 17.8 ppg..... #7 team defense

Jordan won with what Lebron couldn't .. And Dirk won with Jason Terry, so why can't Lebron win with Mo??

And I don't want to hear about Mo averaging 18 on 38% against the Magic because Jordan always won with that from Pippen - it was standard for Jordan to carry weak help over top 5 SRS teams, while Lebron never has.

Lebron is too ball-dominant at high scoring levels to beat top teams with scoring... His inability to carry the "star" category of scoring load requires more star help, which prevents GM's from getting defensive help.. So Lebron's inability to carry the scoring load prevents elite roster construction, while his ball-dominant skillset of turning everyone into spot-up shooter further hampers growth and roster construction

[ShawkFactory]

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2009 Mo............. 17.8 ppg...... #3 team defense
1991 Pippen....... 17.8 ppg..... #7 team defense

Jordan won with what Lebron couldn't .. And Dirk won with Jason Terry, so why can't Lebron win with Mo??

Now THAT is a good one

[3ba11]

Now THAT is a good one

They added a 20k scorer in 2010 that was also a better scorer than Pippen.

yet you act like these cold hard facts are a joke or something.

But that shit happened....

The Cavs were also a top 4 defense in 07' BEFORE lebron became all-defense in 09', so they simply had a stacked defensive cast - this included an all-defensive backcourt (Snow, Hughes), Ben Wallace, and Zydrunas getting 2 blocks per game, plus all-defense Varejao... This is more defensive help than MJ ever had

[ShawkFactory]

Okay fine. Mo Williams and Pippen were basically the same player.

[Full Court]

Dwyane Wade, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, Luka Doncic.

[SouBeachTalents]

Dwyane Wade, Kyrie Irving, Anthony Davis, Luka Doncic.

LeBron was first option over all those guys, even in his late 30's and at 40?

GOAT

[Full Court]

LeBron was first option over all those guys, even in his late 30's and at 40?

GOAT

More help than any player in history. And STILL managed to underachieve.

If that's your "GOAT" it says something about you.

[3ba11]

LeBron was first option over all those guys, even in his late 30's and at 40?

GOAT

Wade led Lebron in scoring for the entire 2011 Playoffs, while AD led for the 2020 playoffs.

So no

And Kyrie basically matched Lebron's PPG in the 16' Playoffs, and "closed"

So Lebron was carried compared to MJ

[beasted]

You trolls are so ridiculously stupid.

You have KAJ/Magic, You have Jerry freaking West, etc, but I get it. Push your troll agenda.

[ArbitraryWater]

You trolls are so ridiculously stupid.

You have KAJ/Magic, You have Jerry freaking West, etc, but I get it. Push your troll agenda.

This karen throwing another fit

[3ba11]

Okay fine. Mo Williams and Pippen were basically the same player.

Pippen was a better defender, yet the Cavs had a better team defense due to advantages defensively at other positions/matchups.. And the Cavs had a great defensive cast and top defense back in 07' before Lebron was all-defense... So the Cavs had a better offensive and defensive cast that got even better in 2010 with the addition of a better scoring sidekick than Jordan ever had (Jamison) and a better center than Jordan ever had (old Shaq).

[Full Court]

Wade led Lebron in scoring for the entire 2011 Playoffs, while AD led for the 2020 playoffs.

So no

And Kyrie basically matched Lebron's PPG in the 16' Playoffs, and "closed"

So Lebron was carried compared to MJ

LeCarried

[ShawkFactory]

Pippen was a better defender, yet the Cavs had a better team defense due to advantages defensively at other positions/matchups.. And the Cavs had a great defensive cast and top defense back in 07' before Lebron was all-defense... So the Cavs had a better offensive and defensive cast that got even better in 2010 with the addition of a better scoring sidekick than Jordan ever had (Jamison) and a better center than Jordan ever had (old Shaq).

Okay fine. Lebrons supporting cast in 2009 was better than Jordan’s in 91.