It's official, Israel is committing genocide, ethnic cleansing and war crimes. .

[diamenz]

Bro, if they can't bother themselves to watch a video under 10 mins with one of those genocide scholars explaining shit in the simplest of term, good luck on these genocide apologists like Bawler and Starface giving a fukk, much less reading that document. All these intellectually dishonest dipshits do is deflect about shit that happened hundreds of years ago instead of talking about how we can stop a horrific genocide happening now. I just can't with these idiots...my point is that we can stop pretending Israel isn't a shithole regime with no moral compass and as Nazi Germany deserved to get wrecked, so do these Zionists baby killers...

Death to Israel.

ten minutes is a long time in the span of someone's day. ISH is morning shit and cigarette break material for most people. make your topic digestible to within that spectrum of time or it will get overlooked or disregarded. make your arguments short and concise to the average human's attention span otherwise you may as well not have one.

not to mention you took the troll bait and got your thread derailed anyway. i tried to save you. lol, whatever.

[TheMan]

ten minutes is a long time in the span of someone's day. ISH is morning shit and cigarette break material for most people. make your topic digestible to within that spectrum of time or it will get overlooked or disregarded. make your arguments short and concise to the average human's attention span otherwise you may as well not have one.

not to mention you took the troll bait and got your thread derailed anyway. i tried to save you. lol, whatever.

Derailing my thread proved to everyone else that has opened up this thread that they have zero counter argument, they didn't even attempt one expect for that pathetic deflection. Bawler loves a back and forth but his silence is deafening here bro...we all know a genocide is occurring, there are no more arguments.

[Patrick Chewing]

Derailing my thread proved to everyone else that has opened up this thread that they have zero counter argument, they didn't even attempt one expect for that pathetic deflection. Bawler loves a back and forth but his silence is deafening here bro...we all know a genocide is occurring, there are no more arguments.

There is no genocide, shrimp.

[RRR3]

There is no genocide, shrimp.

Except it has been officially determined to be a genocide tubs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

[Baller234]

TheNazi carrying on like he didn't totally get bodied. Like his entire argument wasn't totally dismantled.

What a gay fukkin loser.

[RRR3]

TheNazi carrying on like he didn't totally get bodied. Like his entire argument wasn't totally dismantled.

What a gay fukkin loser.

Bawk bawk bawk

[diamenz]

TheNazi carrying on like he didn't totally get bodied. Like his entire argument wasn't totally dismantled.

What a gay fukkin loser.

he got bodied on a personal level.

the subject at hand was never discussed. op never made an argument, so obviously no counterargument was necessary.

i think the genocide claim needs to be entertained at this point. of course it shouldn't be straight up written in stone but nor should it be dismissed out of hand. me? i'm not going down that rabbit hole. debating terms aren't important to me. and obviously no one's minds are going to be changed because neither side wants to listen due to the amount of emotion behind this subject. plus terms like this are defined and scaled differently by everyone based on historical events. and then you have 'genocidal intent'.

[diamenz]

Derailing my thread proved to everyone else that has opened up this thread that they have zero counter argument, they didn't even attempt one expect for that pathetic deflection. Bawler loves a back and forth but his silence is deafening here bro...we all know a genocide is occurring, there are no more arguments.

no it's up to you to make that argument. you can't post someone else's argument (in this case the genocide association's resolution) and expect to weaponize it against people here.

[Axe]

There is no genocide, shrimp.

Great. Let them have a taste of your own meat so that they wouldn't be so stubborn anymore.

[diamenz]

...and by the way - this notion that op can't say or talk about whatever he wants in relation to this subject due to some personal hypocritical technicality is absolutely ridiculous. if you want to call him out on that hypocrisy and have a pitty-pat back and forth over that ensuing drama that's fine but it doesn't somehow bar, delegitimize or disqualify him from discussing the topic. he just hasn't made his argument or at the least shown himself capable of creating a proper thread.

this reminds me of douglas murray filibustering the entire joe rogan debate with dave smith over the fact that he's not qualified to speak on the subject because he's never been to the ME or because of the fact that he's a comedian. or me telling starface that he's been absent from the political forum for too long and hasnt re-earned his bona fides tphere to call out op. i mean wtf are we doing here? is this not cancel culture 101? a ploy to silence criticism against israel? i'm starting to wonder.

[tpols]

In other news, The Man's credit score just dropped 200 points.

[tpols]

I'm with you though NachoMan. We gotta yank em down by those ugly little curls and give a good smeck to them with their silly little hats. No need to do more than that though. Theyre probably the least athletic people in the world so it shouldn't be too hard. Give em a noogie and a wedgie too.

[Baller234]

...and by the way - this notion that op can't say or talk about whatever he wants in relation to this subject due to some personal hypocritical technicality is absolutely ridiculous. if you want to call him out on that hypocrisy and have a pitty-pat back and forth over that ensuing drama that's fine but it doesn't somehow bar, delegitimize or disqualify him from discussing the topic. he just hasn't made his argument or at the least shown himself capable of creating a proper thread.

this reminds me of douglas murray filibustering the entire joe rogan debate with dave smith over the fact that he's not qualified to speak on the subject because he's never been to the ME or because of the fact that he's a comedian. or me telling starface that he's been absent from the political forum for too long and hasnt re-earned his bona fides tphere to call out op. i mean wtf are we doing here? is this not cancel culture 101? a ploy to silence criticism against israel? i'm starting to wonder.

Uh, what?

It's absolutely fair game to call you guys out on your hypocrisy because there's almost nothing you can say about Israel that can't be equally applied to other countries, even your own.

"Zionist" is just "colonizer" with a jewish coat of paint. It's the same resentment and feeling being expressed. Instead of having a nuanced discussion about policy and practicality, Bibi and "the joos" gets cast as Darth Sideous. Evil wizards who are always 68 steps ahead and have leverage over every single person in Washington.

[RRR3]

Uh, what?

It's absolutely fair game to call you guys out on your hypocrisy because there's almost nothing you can say about Israel that can't be equally applied to other countries, even your own.

"Zionist" is just "colonizer" with a jewish coat of paint. It's the same resentment and feeling being expressed. Instead of having a nuanced discussion about policy and practicality, Bibi and "the joos" gets cast as Darth Sideous. Evil wizards who are always 68 steps ahead and have leverage over every single person in Washington.

Now that it’s officially a genocide will you admit Israel has gone too far?

[FultzNationRISE]

...and by the way - this notion that op can't say or talk about whatever he wants in relation to this subject due to some personal hypocritical technicality is absolutely ridiculous. if you want to call him out on that hypocrisy and have a pitty-pat back and forth over that ensuing drama that's fine but it doesn't somehow bar, delegitimize or disqualify him from discussing the topic. he just hasn't made his argument or at the least shown himself capable of creating a proper thread.

this reminds me of douglas murray filibustering the entire joe rogan debate with dave smith over the fact that he's not qualified to speak on the subject because he's never been to the ME or because of the fact that he's a comedian. or me telling starface that he's been absent from the political forum for too long and hasnt re-earned his bona fides tphere to call out op. i mean wtf are we doing here? is this not cancel culture 101? a ploy to silence criticism against israel? i'm starting to wonder.

Youre just not being objective.

Israel isnt rooting out normal members of society in Tel Aviv or Haifa who might have been born in Gaza and eliminating them for being Palestinian. Theyre not hunting Palestinian expats around the globe. Thatd be genocide and thats not whats happening.

This is not a war against a people, it's a conflict over land and security. Those things happen in life, they have throughout history. Gaza is poor, has different social values than Israel, and reproduces by a factor of five each generation. The conflict will never end if they remain there. What is the point of having millions of people crammed in squalor living in poverty and becoming terrorists, just to say you avoided a war? How is that even a better outcome?

Both sides have conflict with each other, have provoked each other, and now it's war. Thats life. Just because Israel is Shaq compared to Palestine being the guy getting posterized, doesnt mean Shaq committed a foul. You dont punish him for being bigger and stronger. Torturing opponents unnecessarily during war would be wrong and condemnable. Sexual crimes would be unacceptable. If those things happen in isolated incidents, condemn it all you want. But otherwise this is two competing claims to land, and a war is resulting, and the only reason YOURE living a first world lifestyle in America is because people before us fought and won the exact same kind of war.

Palestinians are not a specific ethnotype. Theyre Arab and the Arab race aint goin outta business any time soon. But Gaza itself is a breeding ground (to say the least) of squalor and terror and poverty. Israel has to take control of it and some of the weak may perish but the strong Palestinians who survive the war will be able to return one day to a nicer, rebuilt society.

Thats life big guy. Deal with it.