looks like it's time to deport miriam adelson

[Baller234]

well jeez i'm sure i've stated the obvious at least once. what i'm wondering is why is this even a question. who do you take me for anyway, "hamasaremyheroes" on twitter? we're really doing this, you and i?

Because all you did for months was throw the word "genocide" around and point the finger at Israel the entire time. Never once accounting for the fact that the goal was always for Hamas to surrender authority and return the hostages. You were always going on about some evil "ulterior motive" and drawing up these crazy theories. Look at how much damage Israel had to inflict just in order to reach this point, so I'm not sure what else Israel could have possibly done that would made you happy. It's tragic that so many people had to die but blame that on Hamas. And what do you know, all it took was for them to surrender and release the hostages for Israel to pull back.

You look like a fukking idiot now. And the balls it takes for you to chime in now towards the end and say "This is a shift in the right direction..." Oh so I guess it was never about bloodthirst or ethnic cleansing then.

I don't think you secretly love Hamas but it's clear you've come up with a severe case of IDS and it's clouded your judgement.

[diamenz]

Because all you did for months was throw the word "genocide" around and point the finger at Israel the entire time. Never once accounting for the fact that the goal was always for Hamas to surrender authority and return the hostages. You were always going on about some evil "ulterior motive" and drawing up these crazy theories. Look at how much damage Israel had to inflict just in order to reach this point, so I'm not sure what else Israel could have possibly done that would made you happy. It's tragic that so many people had to die but blame that on Hamas. And what do you know, all it took was for them to surrender and release the hostages for Israel to pull back.

You look like a fukking idiot now. And the balls it takes for you to chime in now towards the end and say "This is a shift in the right direction..." Oh so I guess it was never about bloodthirst or ethnic cleansing then.

I don't think you secretly love Hamas but it's clear you've come up with a severe case of IDS and it's clouded your judgement.

bet. link me to the post where i weaponized the word "genocide". on the contrary, do me a favor and linkbme to the posts where i've told people, particularly TheMan & RRR3 to not use that word as it's not constructive in a debate.

if i have time sometime soon, i'll try to find it... if you don't first. but that's not in Baller234's interests, is it.

[diamenz]

Oh so I guess it was never about bloodthirst or ethnic cleansing then.
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no brother i still believe it is and always has been. that's why i'm so skeptical about a lasting peace. do you not believe that israel views the palestinian people as being a constant thorn in their side? what better excuse to ethnically cleanse and kill off a portion of their population than in the midst of a war over a terrorist attack that was possibly and according to some, likely, let happen?

how do you expect me to look at things favorably or optimistically when israeli officials say things like this?

it does not matter now if they are childre

Aharon Haliva said the toll in Gaza, which he put at more than 50,000 dead, was “necessary” as a “message to future generations” of Palestinians.

“They need a Nakba every now and then to feel the price,”

“human animals”, saying there are “no innocents”

“The fact that there are already 50,000 dead in Gaza is necessary and required for future generations,” he said in the broadcast comments. “For everything that happened on October 7th, for every person on October 7, 50 Palestinians must die.

hmm...now that last quote looks awfully accurate to what the current gaza death toll is estimated to be. not saying it's true but one gas to wonder.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...7-october-gaza

[jstern]

"thanks to aipac not being required to register as a foreign entity unlike other foreign lobbies"

Whoa, I had no idea. I wonder why AIPAC gets to skip the rules.

And no, I have never heard of miriam adelson or that she gave that much money to Donald.

How do you not know who she is? Reminds me of your lack of knowledge of basic Kyle Rittenhouse facts, yet commenting on it. Where do you get your news?

[Patrick Chewing]

this is your problem Baller and i don't know how many times i have to say it before you start being honest and acknowledge it. you strawman any individual's take on any subject - especially the subject of israel and conflate that person's position with all of the radical shit that you see on twitter. then we of course have chewing's incessant anti-semitic charges at the slightest peep of israel criticism. and that criticism isn't on behalf of palestine, it's on behalf of america.

you two can justify your bullshit all day but this topic is very straightforward. you can set aside your biases, be reasonable and call this out for what it is or you can sit there and destroy your credibility.

should we deport miriam or should we not? she clearly loves israel more than america so why the *uck is she here? let's all band together as americans and tell her to get the *uck out.

What happened to you?

[ArbitraryWater]

Donny T playing the long game after all, will bring them all down before he leaves office.



s/


but yea, thats prob true for most US politicians

[ArbitraryWater]

What happened to you?

More like what happened to you, as soon as Israel was looked at critically across the board, you stopped your America first tune

[Patrick Chewing]

More like what happened to you, as soon as Israel was looked at critically across the board, you stopped your America first tune

You act as if supporting an ally is a totally new concept. We have been supporting Israel for longer than we've both been alive.

The difference is that antisemitism is on the rise compared to just a few years ago.

Saying "America First" and thinking this gives some of you an excuse to be bigoted ain't the way.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Have you seen Miriam Adelson? Even she wouldn't f#ck Patrick Chewing.

[Baller234]

bet. link me to the post where i weaponized the word "genocide". on the contrary, do me a favor and linkbme to the posts where i've told people, particularly TheMan & RRR3 to not use that word as it's not constructive in a debate.

if i have time sometime soon, i'll try to find it... if you don't first. but that's not in Baller234's interests, is it.

Dude I literally quoted you referring to Israel's military operations as "ethnic cleansing".

[Baller234]

More like what happened to you, as soon as Israel was looked at critically across the board, you stopped your America first tune

Except your reasons for being critical of Israel are totally hypocritical and not based in logic. Not unless you're prepared to say the same things about your own country.

If you think Israel is evil then you must also think America is evil. Especially when you consider our own history and also how much money we ourselves have invested in Israel.

But no, you still claim to be America first somehow. You're like a walking contradiction.

[diamenz]

Dude I literally quoted you referring to Israel's military operations as "ethnic cleansing".

Because all you did for months was throw the word "genocide" around and point the finger at Israel the entire time.

10char

[Baller234]

10char

How's this?

he got bodied on a personal level.

the subject at hand was never discussed. op never made an argument, so obviously no counterargument was necessary.

i think the genocide claim needs to be entertained at this point. of course it shouldn't be straight up written in stone but nor should it be dismissed out of hand. me? i'm not going down that rabbit hole. debating terms aren't important to me. and obviously no one's minds are going to be changed because neither side wants to listen due to the amount of emotion behind this subject. plus terms like this are defined and scaled differently by everyone based on historical events. and then you have 'genocidal intent'.

Your post basically boils down to:

"I'm not saying it's a genocide, but it sure does look like a genocide..."


I'm curious, if you don't think it was a genocide, why would entertain that point?

[diamenz]

How's this?



Your post basically boils down to:

"I'm not saying it's a genocide, but it sure does look like a genocide..."


I'm curious, if you don't think it was a genocide, why would entertain that point?

read that post in it's entirety and explain to me how you came to the conclusion that i'm making the argument for a genocide. if i were actually doing so, it would be as clear as day. you're reaching. just let it go.

synonyms for the word "entertain":

consider
think about
contemplate
give thought to

what do you have to say about the op topic? miriam clearly loves israel more than she loves america. if her loyalty is to a foreign country, then why is she here?

are you and i ever going to agree on anything? this should be a slam dunk.

[TheMan]

I had known about Miriam Adelson, I listen to political podcasters, she's a Jew who corrupts politicians like Trump and her main allegiance lies with Israel. Even if you're not that political, you should know that AIPAC has been corrupting politicians for decades now. Israel isn't that important to us geopolitically speaking but through hundreds of millions of dollars of bribes given to our elected leaders have convinced Americans that somehow they are essential to us as allies... they're not.