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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    Q: "name one thing that illegals are good for?"
    A: "doing our hard labor"
    Q: "they are only good for our slave labor!?"
    A: "no"

    So then name another thing that illegals are good for. This should be easy for you then.

    Tell us why you think importing millions of illegals is great idea without mentioning cheap labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    So then name another thing that illegals are good for. This should be easy for you then.

    Tell us why you think importing millions of illegals is great idea without mentioning cheap labor.
    Since Indians keep being brought up -

    https://economictimes.indiatimes.com...8.cms?from=mdr

    They are good for all forms of labor.








    Indian Immigrants save the US Gov $1.7M each, on average.

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    What about the millions upon millions of immigrants not coming from India?

    What are they good for other than labor? Why is it a good idea to import them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    What about the millions upon millions of immigrants not coming from India?

    What are they good for other than labor? Why is it a good idea to import them?
    "Import" them?

    They are good for literally the exact same things that legal citizens are good for. Elon Musk was an immigrant.

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    Why do you believe that a human's legal status has any bearing or relevance to what that human is "good for"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    Why do you believe that a human's legal status has any bearing or relevance to what that human is "good for"?
    If you don’t have any legal or illegal system for admission then you run the risk of letting anyone in and that invalidates your metrics about how importing 3rd worlders is technically profitable for America or society. Oh yeah aren’t you against the notion that just because something is more profitable doesn’t inherently make it better? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by warriorfan View Post
    If you don’t have any legal or illegal system for admission then you run the risk of letting anyone in and that invalidates your metrics about how importing 3rd worlders is technically profitable for America or society. Oh yeah aren’t you against the notion that just because something is more profitable doesn’t inherently make it better? Lol
    That did not address the question at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    That did not address the question at all.
    Go **** yourself and have fun getting dominated with your low iq devils advocate schtick all day everyday

    Interesting behavior tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    Why do you believe that a human's legal status has any bearing or relevance to what that human is "good for"?


    ^ That is going to be my new disclaimer every time you guys deflect and act all phony and disingenuous.

    America is not obligated to let in every human being from around the world. There are billions of "humans". We don't have the resources and our system would collapse. That would be like rolling out the red carpet and letting everyone into disneyland without paying. When that happens you can't have disneyland anymore.

    So what are you trying to say? That America should import millions of illegal immigrants whether it's good for the country or not? If it's bad for the country and brings us closer to collapse then so be it?

    That is essentially your argument. "America needs illegal immigrants because they are humans and humans matter".

    Autistic. Retarded. Moronic. Low IQ.

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    None of that answered my question. I'm not going to play the game where I answer all of your questions directly and you ignore mine completely.

    Why do you believe that a human's legal status has any bearing or relevance to what that human is "good for"?


    Answer that, and then I will proceed to address your embarrassingly nonsensical Disney Land stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    None of that answered my question. I'm not going to play the game where I answer all of your questions directly and you ignore mine completely.



    Answer that, and then I will proceed to address your embarrassingly nonsensical Disney Land stuff


    In an ideal utopia we would be able to help and accommodate every human on Earth but that is not the reality. The reality is our resources are finite and our systems can only sustain if they are governed by rules and order. Letting in EVERYONE with total disregard would destroy what we currently have.

    If Disneyland let everyone in without paying, the park would quickly descend into total chaos. The rides would have endless lines, food stands would run out of supplies, restrooms would become overcrowded and disgusting, security and safety measures would collapse due to the park being filled beyond capacity, and less ticket revenue means less money for upkeep and maintenance. What was once meant to be a joyful experience would turn into total shit show. The system that makes it work depends on limits, structure and contribution from everyone who enters.

    If America let everyone in from around the world by the millions without any rules or limits, our systems would become overwhelmed. And it wouldn't just be about numbers, but about differences. Schools, hospitals, and neighborhoods would struggle to function as people arrived speaking hundreds of languages and following very different cultural norms. Communication barriers would slow education, healthcare, and law enforcement. Our communities would fragment. Our jobs, housing, and public services would buckle under the pressure.

    Just as Disneyland needs tickets and limits to keep things running smoothly, a country needs immigration laws and structure so that people from other cultures can enter, adapt, and contribute without collapsing the systems that make life work for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post


    In an ideal utopia we would be able to help and accommodate every human on Earth but that is not the reality. The reality is our resources are finite and our systems can only sustain if they are governed by rules and order. Letting in EVERYONE with total disregard would destroy what we currently have.

    If Disneyland let everyone in without paying, the park would quickly descend into total chaos. The rides would have endless lines, food stands would run out of supplies, restrooms would become overcrowded and disgusting, security and safety measures would collapse due to the park being filled beyond capacity, and less ticket revenue means less money for upkeep and maintenance. What was once meant to be a joyful experience would turn into total shit show. The system that makes it work depends on limits, structure and contribution from everyone who enters.

    If America let everyone in from around the world by the millions without any rules or limits, our systems would become overwhelmed. And it wouldn't just be about numbers, but about differences. Schools, hospitals, and neighborhoods would struggle to function as people arrived speaking hundreds of languages and following very different cultural norms. Communication barriers would slow education, healthcare, and law enforcement. Our communities would fragment. Our jobs, housing, and public services would buckle under the pressure.

    Just as Disneyland needs tickets and limits to keep things running smoothly, a country needs immigration laws and structure so that people from other cultures can enter, adapt, and contribute without collapsing the systems that make life work for everyone.
    This is more of the same and completely ignores my question again. Walt Disney's parents immigrated here from Europe btw, DisneyLand wouldn't exist without immigration. And our numbers would dwindle without it and THAT would overwhelm the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    This is more of the same and completely ignores my question again. Walt Disney's parents immigrated here from Europe btw, DisneyLand wouldn't exist without immigration. And our numbers would dwindle without it and THAT would overwhelm the system.
    Why are you dishonestly conflating immigration with illegal immigration? Seems intentional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Gates View Post
    This is more of the same and completely ignores my question again. Walt Disney's parents immigrated here from Europe btw, DisneyLand wouldn't exist without immigration. And our numbers would dwindle without it and THAT would overwhelm the system.
    Why are you dishonestly conflating immigration with illegal immigration? Seems intentional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    Why are you dishonestly conflating immigration with illegal immigration? Seems intentional.
    Elias Disney (father) came into the US illegally, crossing the border in Canada. He met Flora Call (mother), and was not legal until he married her in Chicago. The two went on to birth Walt, and he would not exist without his father immigrating into the US illegally.

    That relates directly to question that you keep ignoring. Why do you believe that a human's legal status has any bearing or relevance to what that human is "good for"? Elias have papers or not is irrelevant.

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