"Concepts of a plan" revealed!

[beasted]

https://youtube.com/shorts/o_x8DVhmR...lhqLngUaCSgGbg

Trump has been saying he has a plan since 2011 and the idiot MAGA crowd still defends this numbskull saying the same lie over and over and over.

Pretty please with sugar top, can Hey Yo, warriorfan, Patrick Chewing, or any one of the MAGA faithful explain why they happily accept this lie for so long and don't hold him accountable?

[ShawkFactory]

Trump has been saying he has a plan since 2011 and the idiot MAGA crowd still defends this numbskull saying the same lie over and over and over.

Pretty please with sugar top, can Hey Yo, warriorfan, Patrick Chewing, or any one of the MAGA faithful explain why they happily accept this lie for so long and don't hold him accountable?

Hey..there's a healthcare plan.

It looks like the OBBB will be downgraded Nursing, Physical Therapy, and Physician Assistant schooling away from a "professional degree", and such will reclassify the cap (lower it) on loans they can receive.

So at least he's doing a good job of addressing the nursing and general healthcare labor shortage. Not for the better but it's something.

[bladefd]

Too many MAGAS in Red States on the Affordable Care Plan.

Good God, if the Republicans think they are gonna be blown out in the mid-terms now, just wait until their hillbillies base premiums skyrocket 100%.

In 2027 Republican primaries, after the blue wave comes in 2026, we're going to hear a whole lot of "Who is Trump? I have never supported him! I don't even know who that person is!"

[bladefd]

Hey..there's a healthcare plan.

It looks like the OBBB will be downgraded Nursing, Physical Therapy, and Physician Assistant schooling away from a "professional degree", and such will reclassify the cap (lower it) on loans they can receive.

So at least he's doing a good job of addressing the nursing and general healthcare labor shortage. Not for the better but it's something.

It's insane tbh. Deeming nursing not a professional degree is nuts. Right when the baby boomers are the age when they will be getting hospitalized left and right. There are not enough nurses at present. I have no clue what's going to happen in the coming years.

Ah well, it's only going to remain until January 2027 when the Democrats probably take both houses and reverse nonsense like this. They have to or else healthcare is in even more turmoil. There are nurses and doctors working themselves into the ground. Not only will this downgrading be a problem but so are mass deportations. We're going to have a huge shortage of labor workers in a couple of years.

[ZenMaster]

In 2027 Republican primaries, after the blue wave comes in 2026, we're going to hear a whole lot of "Who is Trump? I have never supported him! I don't even know who that person is!"

It's no different than all the people saying they never supported Biden, Kamala, the Clintons etc.

[beasted]

Trump has been saying he has a plan since 2011 and the idiot MAGA crowd still defends this numbskull saying the same lie over and over and over.

Pretty please with sugar top, can Hey Yo, warriorfan, Patrick Chewing, or any one of the MAGA faithful explain why they happily accept this lie for so long and don't hold him accountable?

Someone? Anyone? This is literally the number one reason I will never support Trump or anyone he endorses. You spend all day berating liberals instead of trying to convince the swing voters to join up with you. As an independent, this is what matters to me! It is precisely what has led me to lean left over the last several presidential elections. But none of the MAGA/ Republicans ever want to talk about this.

They're always quiet as shit about Trump's healthcare plan, but always have the most to say about totally irrelevant shit that doesn't even affect them or their family.

I'm begging anyone to make it make sense. This guy has SCOTUS, Senate and House in his pocket and still is talking bullshit about "concepts of a plan".

[Hey Yo]

Someone? Anyone? This is literally the number one reason I will never support Trump or anyone he endorses. You spend all day berating liberals instead of trying to convince the swing voters to join up with you. As an independent, this is what matters to me! It is precisely what has led me to lean left over the last several presidential elections. But none of the MAGA/ Republicans ever want to talk about this.

They're always quiet as shit about Trump's healthcare plan, but always have the most to say about totally irrelevant shit that doesn't even affect them or their family.

I'm begging anyone to make it make sense. This guy has SCOTUS, Senate and House in his pocket and still is talking bullshit about "concepts of a plan".

When you work for a place where you don't have to pay a dime for coverage that covers everything from free dental cleanings, to free prescriptions, free vision and back surgery that costs you nothing.... you really dont pay attention to what's going on with the cost of health care.

[bladefd]

It's no different than all the people saying they never supported Biden, Kamala, the Clintons etc.

I don't think you are going to find as many on the Democrats side like that as Republican in recent decades. Few Republicans will admit to ever having voted for Bush or Trump in 2016 (I suspect after this term, very few will admit to having voted for Trump in 16 or 24).

I never thought Biden/Harris/Hillary were good choices, but I voted for all 3 in general election (voted Bernie in the first two primaries and Harris never had a primary). I would never support Trump.

[Hey Yo]

I don't think you are going to find as many on the Democrats side like that as Republican in recent decades. Few Republicans will admit to ever having voted for Bush or Trump in 2016 (I suspect after this term, very few will admit to having voted for Trump in 16 or 24)

Why would Republicans not admit to voting for Trump? It's way more embarrassing to admitting you voted for DEI hire Kamalluh. That admits you give zero fukks about this country.

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When you work for a place where you don't have to pay a dime for coverage that covers everything from free dental cleanings, to free prescriptions, free vision and back surgery that costs you nothing.... you really dont pay attention to what's going on with the cost of health care.

Thanks for at least answering, but are all Republicans putting on blinders the same as you? Everyone doesn't have zero copay/deductible insurance. Every other MAGA can't be thinking this is someone else's problem.

I'm earning good money, I have savings, and I'm in good health. So, I'm not the one hard pressed with bills or needing health insurance at the moment, but, that doesn't mean I can't see how this affects my family members and friends. I also know that I've chosen the best plan my employer offers, and even still, if I had a serious emergency I would be paying a lot still. I spend $4k per year just in premiums. Many people cannot afford that, I'm sure some of my coworkers have to pick these insanely high deductible plans because they can't afford the same tier of coverage. This is not something people should look past and someone else's problem to worry about.

Beyond that, regardless of how fortunate you are, as a matter of principle you should not be OK being lied to for 14 years straight.

[ShawkFactory]

When you work for a place where you don't have to pay a dime for coverage that covers everything from free dental cleanings, to free prescriptions, free vision and back surgery that costs you nothing.... you really dont pay attention to what's going on with the cost of health care.

Woof dude.

Way to play your hand. You just don't give a fvck and thus know nothing. And apparently you're the right one..

[Hey Yo]

Your hand was a very weak troll attempt.

[ShawkFactory]

Your hand was a very weak troll attempt.

I wasn't trolling. At all.

This is a very important issue at the moment right? Like..pretty much the whole reason the federal government was shut down. And you admit to knowing nothing about it.

Which begs the question..what DO you know about then? From a political standpoint at least. Why are you a Trump guy? If you don't know anything about this stuff then why pick sides and not just live like a Ron Swanson type steering clear of all of it? It's weird.

To be clear, I'm not at all judging you for not knowing. That's fine if you're comfortable where you are and don't really concern yourself with it. What I do judge is you not knowing and still being active for your "team" like you are here. Doesn't make sense.

[Hey Yo]

Damn... don't think I've seen you meltdown like this, except maybe with 3ball.

I know exactly what the shutdown was about and Dems wanting to continue to give free Healthcare to illegals. That's not what I want my tax dollars to go to. You might, but im sure you have no reason why you do or why that it's great to keep doing so for them.

[bladefd]

Damn... don't think I've seen you meltdown like this, except maybe with 3ball.

I know exactly what the shutdown was about and Dems wanting to continue to give free Healthcare to illegals. That's not what I want my tax dollars to go to. You might, but im sure you have no reason why you do or why that it's great to keep doing so for them.

You are completely clueless about how the Medicaid registration process works. It's pretty stringent in most states. You must be a citizen or qualified non-citizen. And yes, they verify it. I know because a friend of mine works in social service. You have zero idea what you are talking about.

Second, did you know that if an illegal goes to the ER, the hospital can't turn down treatment? It's a law that has been in place for 40 years. NOBODY can be turned down for emergency room. So, they can still get emergency care for free without paying a penny for it while being illegal. A few states, including California, use state funds to go beyond (again, state funds so it's up to their discretion), but most don't.