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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by L.Kizzle View Post
    I just looker at those Nets teams, he wasn't even the leading scorer. Richard Jefferson and Jason Kidd were scoring more. My man's can't even outscore J-Kidd and he's yapping. Pack him up.
    Would have out scored kidd on same amou t of shots. Sub 40% triple double king!

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by GOBB View Post
    First you’re comparing two different eras. The game aren’t remotely close to being the same from a pace/scoring aspect. Second Jarrett Allen is a center. Kmart is a 4 who could guard multiple positions. Especially elite perimeter scorers.
    Im aware they're from different eras bu we're not bout to act like Kenyon would be getting Karl Malone numbers if he played today.
    Yes, Jarrett Allen is a center who's the same size as K-Mart. That's why I made the comparison.

    In closing, Kenyon Martin would br Jarrett Allen if he plays today.

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    Would have out scored kidd on same amou t of shots. Sub 40% triple double king!

    Different era. Lowest shooting % era of all time it was and they forced Jason Kidd to carry the scoring load on a title contending team when that was his only weakness. Best rebounding PG ever. Best defensive PG ever. Incredible general floorsmanship and intuitive passing. Brought a 20 win team to B2B Finals.

    Kind of funny you would hate on him. He was like the point guard version of Rudy Gobert but showed up in the playoffs and led teams incredibly deep.

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    Would have out scored kidd on same amou t of shots. Sub 40% triple double king!
    A whole 1 and a half shots more.

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    Different era. Lowest shooting % era of all time it was and they forced Jason Kidd to carry the scoring load on a title contending team when that was his only weakness. Best rebounding PG ever. Best defensive PG ever. Incredible general floorsmanship and intuitive passing. Brought a 20 win team to B2B Finals.

    Kind of funny you would hate on him. He was like the point guard version of Rudy Gobert but showed up in the playoffs and led teams incredibly deep.
    No one forced kidd to take the scoring load. He had the ball. Stockton shot over 50% in same era. Not the same team that won 20 despite the narrative. East sucked. Still does despite beasted think otherwise. I like efficiency even before it was a thing. Gobert efficient. Plays within himself. Knows what he is good at and excels.

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    No one forced kidd to take the scoring load. He had the ball. Stockton shot over 50% in same era. Not the same team that won 20 despite the narrative. East sucked. Still does despite beasted think otherwise. I like efficiency even before it was a thing. Gobert efficient. Plays within himself. Knows what he is good at and excels.

    Easy to say when you have a GOAT scorer and MVP on your team in Karl Malone vs Kerry Kittles or Kenyon Martin.

    Stockton on the Nets would be lottery guaranteed. He was great but also in an extremely fortunate situation. Hed have no chance of doing what Kidd did with NJ. And even you know that.

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by tpols View Post
    Easy to say when you have a GOAT scorer and MVP on your team in Karl Malone vs Kerry Kittles or Kenyon Martin.

    Stockton on the Nets would be lottery guaranteed. He was great but also in an extremely fortunate situation. Hed have no chance of doing what Kidd did with NJ. And even you know that.
    Kittles would probably be the 2nd best sg stockton played with. Pretty sure he would have made kittles and martin looked good. he certainly would have passed to the open man instead of forcing up a bad shot. Who knows what stockton would have done in a weak conference. I know he wouldnt have shot under 40%.

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by L.Kizzle View Post
    Im aware they're from different eras bu we're not bout to act like Kenyon would be getting Karl Malone numbers if he played today.
    Yes, Jarrett Allen is a center who's the same size as K-Mart. That's why I made the comparison.

    In closing, Kenyon Martin would br Jarrett Allen if he plays today.
    You made it because of size and doubled down on it? Lol smh

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    The fact that Nick Young can actually make a case or an argument for his role on a Championship team to Kenyon Martin never winning, even though Young only averaged 2.6 ppg for that playoff run and 7.3ppg for the regular season, says alot about how much value a championship adds to a resume. Lol

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by 97 bulls View Post
    The fact that Nick Young can actually make a case or an argument for his role on a Championship team to Kenyon Martin never winning, even though Young only averaged 2.6 ppg for that playoff run and 7.3ppg for the regular season, says alot about how much value a championship adds to a resume. Lol
    Another thinly veiled post about Michael Jordan.

    Lmao.

    Seek professional help.

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by 97 bulls View Post
    The fact that Nick Young can actually make a case or an argument for his role on a Championship team to Kenyon Martin never winning, even though Young only averaged 2.6 ppg for that playoff run and 7.3ppg for the regular season, says alot about how much value a championship adds to a resume. Lol
    Another thinly veiled post about Michael Jordan.

    Lmao.

    Seek professional help.

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    KMarts advice to the youngins on how to avoid injury is spectacular.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/ycGsgW5KN...SAwASnU2lYuydL

    Makes you wonder how they made it in GOBB and Kblaze era. I think the dope mightve been more pure.

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiao Yao You View Post
    Kittles would probably be the 2nd best sg stockton played with. Pretty sure he would have made kittles and martin looked good. he certainly would have passed to the open man instead of forcing up a bad shot. Who knows what stockton would have done in a weak conference. I know he wouldnt have shot under 40%.
    It's hard to say. Stockton thrived in the half court but in terms of fast paced transition basketball he doesn't compare to Kidd, and that was that team's biggest strength.

    K-Mart wasn't half as good as Karl Malone so you can't just play pick and roll or dump the ball in the post. Kidd's fast break playground style brought out the best in him because he was big and athletic and could finish. Pair K-Mart with Stockton and I just don't think you get the same out of him. It's not like Stockton was known for his alley-oops.

    There might be certain situations or rosters where I would prefer to have Stockton, but that Nets team was all J-Kidd and I don't think many other players have success with that roster. I know they were in an extremely weak conference and I'm not saying the Nets were anywhere close to being the best team in the league those years, but you still have to give him credit for making back to back finals runs. They still played some pretty good teams and it's not like the Nets were stacked. It says something about Kidd and about that team.

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    It's hard to say. Stockton thrived in the half court but in terms of fast paced transition basketball he doesn't compare to Kidd, and that was that team's biggest strength.

    K-Mart wasn't half as good as Karl Malone so you can't just play pick and roll or dump the ball in the post. Kidd's fast break playground style brought out the best in him because he was big and athletic and could finish. Pair K-Mart with Stockton and I just don't think you get the same out of him. It's not like Stockton was known for his alley-oops.

    There might be certain situations or rosters where I would prefer to have Stockton, but that Nets team was all J-Kidd and I don't think many other players have success with that roster. I know they were in an extremely weak conference and I'm not saying the Nets were anywhere close to being the best team in the league those years, but you still have to give him credit for making back to back finals runs. They still played some pretty good teams and it's not like the Nets were stacked. It says something about Kidd and about that team.
    And it doesnt compare to the jazz when they out ran showtime in the 88 playoffs. Maetin couldnt run like karl or even thurl. Sloan preferred the half court game and pick and roll not stockton and malone. No he never through an alley oop. Didnt need to. Not hard to picture stockton Thriving in the princeton offense

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    Default Re: Kenyon Martin names 50 power forwards better than Draymond Green

    Quote Originally Posted by Baller234 View Post
    It's hard to say. Stockton thrived in the half court but in terms of fast paced transition basketball he doesn't compare to Kidd, and that was that team's biggest strength.

    K-Mart wasn't half as good as Karl Malone so you can't just play pick and roll or dump the ball in the post. Kidd's fast break playground style brought out the best in him because he was big and athletic and could finish. Pair K-Mart with Stockton and I just don't think you get the same out of him. It's not like Stockton was known for his alley-oops.

    There might be certain situations or rosters where I would prefer to have Stockton, but that Nets team was all J-Kidd and I don't think many other players have success with that roster. I know they were in an extremely weak conference and I'm not saying the Nets were anywhere close to being the best team in the league those years, but you still have to give him credit for making back to back finals runs. They still played some pretty good teams and it's not like the Nets were stacked. It says something about Kidd and about that team.

    He doesn't understand that Stocktons efficiency would absolutely plummet on those Nets teams. Hed have nobody to run the PnR with and it was ugly slow basketball.

    The Jazz when they made the Finals were a poor defensive team rank wise. Kidd led #1 ranked defenses overnight. Thats why I dont get why Xiao doesn't appreciate his game since he loves defense so much.

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