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Old 03-09-2009, 10:25 PM   #31
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I very much doubt you're telling the whole story with the cancers. I'm betting they were terminally ill, with no other real options, and they try 'experimental therapy'. Doctors don't just guinea pig healthy patients. I just wish people would stop pretending to portray **** by trying to dupe people with half truths just so they'll side with them

As for my stance i think its completely retarded for people to defend embryo's that aren't going to be born human beings. I'm also not a scientist, but from what i've read many scientists swear stem cell research will lead to many breakthrough's in medicine/science. Its the naysayers that hold us back from finding cures with their moral preachings that have always been garbage. Religion has always been the bane to the development and evolution of science/medicine, and this is no different.


jeez.. read the MSNBC link I put up there written by a M.D.

I just rewrote what was on there.



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Republicans and their God are hindering progress. Agreed. They just threatened to filibuster Obama's nomination of a Democrat majority in the Supreme Court.... after they called filibustering from the Democrats of Bush's majority Republican nominations "reprehensible"

but if iPSC (inducible pluripotent stem cells), derived from your own cells (no embryos would be used) could also lead to forming organs and tissue and all that, would you be in favor of that over embryonic stem cells? (as outlined in the link I provided)
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:28 PM   #32
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jeez.. read the MSNBC link I put up there written by a M.D.

I just rewrote what was on there.



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Republicans and their God are hindering progress. Agreed. They just threatened to filibuster Obama's nomination of a Democrat majority in the Supreme Court.... after they called filibustering from the Democrats of Bush's majority Republican nominations "reprehensible"

but if iPSC (inducible pluripotent stem cells), derived from your own cells (no embryos would be used) could also lead to forming organs and tissue and all that, would you be in favor of that over embryonic stem cells? (as outlined in the link I provided)

Thats exactly what scientists are researching on NOW. Embryonic stem cells are likely to be phased out.
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:34 PM   #33
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Default Re: What is your stance on embryonic stem cell research?

We need more people to die, not more people to live. People already live through shyt they shouldn't.


That being said, I don't really care if they research stem cells or not. People in other countries (and probably ours) are already working on clones.
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:39 PM   #34
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We need more people to die, not more people to live. People already live through shyt they shouldn't.


That being said, I don't really care if they research stem cells or not. People in other countries (and probably ours) are already working on clones.


well... I'll take it you are sharing the sentiment that if the world gets overpopulated, we'll be forced to eat soylent green.



and disclaimer, even the nonembryo stem cells lead to the same cancer problems...

human cloning, in theory, is the surest way to harvest the necessary organs. Obama just said today he will definitely not go there.
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Old 03-09-2009, 10:40 PM   #35
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Republicans and their God are hindering progress. Agreed. They just threatened to filibuster Obama's nomination of a Democrat majority in the Supreme Court.... after they called filibustering from the Democrats of Bush's majority Republican nominations "reprehensible"

but if iPSC (inducible pluripotent stem cells), derived from your own cells (no embryos would be used) could also lead to forming organs and tissue and all that, would you be in favor of that over embryonic stem cells? (as outlined in the link I provided)
"Over" stem cells? I don't care whether the source material is stem cells or "pluripotent" cells. That's a decision that should be made by a scientist or doctor with whatever is best for the patient in mind. And if that's the pluipotent cell? Fine. 'Though for the record, if the choice is left to me and doesn't make any difference health-wise, give me the stem cells just to annoy the stupid.
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Old 03-10-2009, 06:53 PM   #36
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I'm against federal funding.

Funny...you were opposed to federal income taxes two weeks ago.
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:11 PM   #37
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Funny...you were opposed to federal income taxes two weeks ago.

Whats your point?
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:13 PM   #38
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Funny...you were opposed to federal income taxes two weeks ago.
He supports Halliburton and other companies not paying any taxes at all with the aid of offshore tax shelters. At least he's consistent.
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:15 PM   #39
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In these economic times, people should be happy for the possibility of more factory jobs in the future.
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Old 03-10-2009, 07:30 PM   #40
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Whats your point?

Ummm...where does the goverrnment get their money from...?
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Ummm...where does the goverrnment get their money from...?

obviously not the income tax
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