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Old 11-17-2009, 07:48 AM   #16
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Default Re: Do the math, going to europe hurt jennings

you have no idea if it hurt him. how do you know he wouldn't have been the 10th pick if he had gone to college?

besides, thats a short term thing. the difference between his salary and the salary that he would have made going, say, in the top 5 is reduced because he made money playing in europe whereas he wouldn't have made money playing in the ncaa. plus, he is now a better bball player and will earn more money in future contracts. the move seems to have helped him...
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:54 AM   #17
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He got the expierience of playing with pros, got to make his money playing overseas instead of pretending to go to school and he got the chance to hang out outside of the US and see a whole new society.
He made the decision that helped his game the most, not his wallet
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:57 AM   #18
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B/c even HE says it was good for him. It made him grow up and humbled his ass which he clearly needed b/c he was too lazy to even makes the grades for college. Dude thought he was Gods gift and needed to learn from real pros vs going to a college where he would have been coddled like the child he was.

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Old 11-17-2009, 09:58 AM   #19
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Once his rook contract is up and he makes big money 2.5 mill will sound more like $2.50 to him.

just saying
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Old 11-17-2009, 11:03 AM   #20
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Holy **** I never realised rookies were paid so much! I wonder why that's the case, since with the draft system there is no real competition at this stage... anyone knows why they have to pay so much?
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:46 PM   #21
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So now he has only made 9.470.000,00 dollars? Poor fellow.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:52 PM   #22
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Holy **** I never realised rookies were paid so much! I wonder why that's the case, since with the draft system there is no real competition at this stage... anyone knows why they have to pay so much?


ummm... relative to the rest of the league they aren't paid that much. the average nba players maded $5.4 million in 2007-08. by contrast, according to the 2009-2010 rookie scale not even blake griffin will make the '07-08 average salaray in his 3rd year (2011-'12).
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:59 PM   #23
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The way Jennings is playing now he will be getting a huge payday in a few years time anyway...so going to europe has helped him develop and has helped him put up the big time stats.
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Old 11-18-2009, 07:35 AM   #24
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I don't get all of the commentary about how Jennings NBA success is proving that going to europe in lieu of college is now a good idea. Doesn't it prove the opposite? Doesn't it show that he was... chosen to late? And why was he chosen so late, might it be because he sucked while in Europe?

Let's take a look at what could have happened. He could have gone to college and easily been the best freshman player. Given what he's doing now, it would have happened. And he would have been drafted at #2 behind Griffith, who was a force of nature. But seeing as how Thabeet was taken #2, a freshman phenom Jennings is an easy #2.

The rookie salary scale for a #2 pick would give him 11.98 million guaranteed for 3 years. For a #10 pick he gets 5.8 million guaranteed. Plus the 1.65 million contract for his european team and the 2 million in endorsements that he couldn't have gotten in college. So that's 11.98 million vs 9.47 million.

Jennings is -2.5 million for choosing to go to europe. Why are people lauding the decision now?
you must be a college hoops fan. NO he got exactly what he needed by going the route he did. How many great players went to college and got hurt, never made a dime off of basketball and lost their college money because of it?
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Old 11-18-2009, 03:46 PM   #25
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The #2 and #3 teams picked based on needs (center and sg respectively), so at most he would have gone #4. That hurts your claim a little

He may have lost out on some initial $, but it is not for sure that he would have gone top 5 if he went to arizona. Hell, he was lucky to get picked #10. I don't think going overseas hurt him at all. Teams swing and miss all the time in the draft. Plus he is a 6 foot guard with a slight frame, not many teams would jump at that. Plus he has a huge ego, which probably hurt his draft stock, but will ultimately help his game.

Still a good move by Jennings, 1 and done is a dumb rule. Let the boys fail if that is what they want. What guarantee is it that these guys make it though 4 years of college? Then get a good job. These guys are told from AAU that they are great, will make it, that is why they play ball, to make it to the big show, not to play NCAA and then stop.

The rule is another Stern rule based on the best interest of the NBA and it's affiliates (notably the NCAA) plus to cut down on salaries since guys will have more NBA experience when they negotiate the 2 and third contracts.

Stern is evil and a cheater! A liar, and a jackass. He is a lawyer so why would it surprise me.
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