Kevin Mchale vs Dirk Nowitzki All time

[MasterDurant24]

Too easy. McHale, one of the best low post players of all time.

[Papaya Petee]

This is like Kobe vs LeBron

McHale has the achivements, but Dirk is the better player.

Dirk for me.

[Brunch@Five]

This is like Kobe vs LeBron

McHale has the achivements, but Dirk is the better player.

Dirk for me.

what achievements does McHale have that Dirk has not, other than the championships he won mostly due to Bird?

[DKLaker]

Possibly the best footwork I've ever seen, no ego, never minded if he was a starter or coming off the bench, just go the job done.

McHale any day.

McHale without any question.

Most of these guys never saw him play.....his best season is identical to Tim Duncan's best season.....statistically. McHale had big time all around skills....Dirk is just a shooter.

[LosBulls]

Lol Dirk is just way better.

[Yung D-Will]

Dirk 17
Mchale 13

[BallPhunk]

what achievements does McHale have that Dirk has not, other than the championships he won mostly due to Bird?

Way to have a good understanding of basketball on a basketball forum.

[Flamboyant]

To some posts above:
1. McHale is not the better second option (Dirk clearly is), he is the better role player (at most).
2. Anyone thinking that Kevin is a better rebounder, or passer hasn't really watched these guys play much.
3. The guy that called McHale the GOAT defensive PF needs to get pimpsmacked.

Dirk by a landslide.

[Yung D-Will]

To some posts above:
1. McHale is not the better second option (Dirk clearly is), he is the better role player (at most).
2. Anyone thinking that Kevin is a better rebounder, or passer hasn't really watched these guys play much.
3. The guy that called McHale the GOAT defensive PF needs to get pimpsmacked.

Dirk by a landslide.

You sure you don't wanna rephrase that

[ShaqAttack3234]

Dirk, McHale was great and at his best, a better scorer, but Dirk's longevity is superior and he's been a franchise player, MVP and consistent MVP candidate for years now. He really changed the power forward position.

[Fatal9]

I don't particularly care for where they rank on an all-time list, but McHale was the better player. Really wish Celtics won in '85 or '87 but the team was dealing with injuries ('85 it was Bird's shooting elbow, '87 it was basically the entire team). McHale would have won the finals MVP if Celtics won in either of those years, and also had one of the best non-finals MVP winning series against Hakeem in '86.

McHale was the better scorer (probably the best half court scorer ever at his position for me), better defender and I prefer his type of offense to Dirk's. McHale's passing sometimes gets diminished because he was a "black hole" but that's because he was so damn efficient. It wasn't a skill he was lacking, can't really compare assist numbers to measure ability when one guy can score on you at will and as a result is a bit less likely to pass back out. He played on the best passing team that I've ever seen in the '86 Celtics, and did nothing to hurt their ball movement.

[Flamboyant]

You sure you don't wanna rephrase that

Which one you think is wrong, rebounding, or passing?

Rebounding: Kevin played in a faster era, and much closer to the basket, and yet doesn't have any huge advantage on Dirk. In playoffs, Dirk turns it up, and has multiple postseason with 10+ boards. Just checked, and indeed McHale has none.

Passing: I'm not gonna pretend Dirks passing is something special, in fact even as a Mavs fan I have (and will) knocked Dirk for his passing in every Bird comparison. But he is just flat out better than Kevin. Everything Brunch@Five has said was dead on. Kevin was indeed a black hole. If you believe comparing these two is actually similar to comparing Dirk v Pau, than I don't know what to say.

[Fatal9]

Rebounding: Kevin played in a faster era, and much closer to the basket, and yet doesn't have any huge advantage on Dirk. In playoffs, Dirk turns it up, and has multiple postseason with 10+ boards. Just checked, and indeed McHale has none.

McHale was also on a frontline that had Bird and Parish getting 10 boards a night. Weren't many free defensive rebounds to grab, compare their offensive rebound numbers and McHale puts Dirk to shame. Dirk is absolutely not a better rebounder.

[Locked_Up_Tonight]

McHale was also on a frontline that had Bird and Parish getting 10 boards a night. Weren't many free defensive rebounds to grab, compare their offensive rebound numbers and McHale puts Dirk to shame. Dirk is absolutely not a better rebounder.

And McHale is not a better rebounder as well. I mean if you are going to play the card of :McHale couldn't grab defensive boards because of Bird and Parrish grabbing them all.....

Then someone else can say: Dirk couldn't grab offensive boards because he wasn't camped out in the paint on offense. And he wasn't the 3rd option on offense so therefore he didn't have as many opportunities to grab offensive rebounds.

See? It works both ways.

They are about equal in rebounding. The major difference though is Dirk has been rebounding for a much longer time period than McHale did.

[White Chocolate]

Dirk has the longevity, but McHale shits on him defensively. McHale was also the more clutch of the two. My vote is for Big Kev.