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good scorer
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by Batz
I will do the math as soon as my thumb stops swelling.
okey dokey.
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College superstar
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Great research Rose esp for those Kobe worshippers.
I am a Laker fan and. I don't like it when Kobe takes a ton of shots but I take the good with the bad. At times Kobe would have to take those shots to save his team.
The data puts some more perspective that we should not not just focus on LIMITED facts but the totality.
I want to know though, If you can put also the negative stats when ESPN was putting Lebron James on their pedestal in his rookie year.
ESPN, almost every week would state James as youngest guy to score, rebounded, assisted etc etc. Heck they never put, youngest player to brick this many shots, or to commit this many turnovers.
My point is, James also played extensively in his rookie year UNLIKE Bryant and yet they NEVER focussed on his NEGATIVE stats.
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Heat Nation
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Hahah I can't rep you because I have to spread the love around first, but I know you are going to get negged a million times for this, great thread tho.
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Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by Batz
You factor in seasons it's pretty irrelevant too.
exactly... he's in his 15th season age has nothing to do with it per se... not many folks will have racked up 18 seasons? assuming he stays that long when it's all said and done he'll lead or be at the top of some categories because he was good some for other reasons and some strictly because he played so long
Last edited by gts; 12-07-2010 at 07:57 PM.
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good scorer
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by tamaraw08
Great research Rose esp for those Kobe worshippers.
I am a Laker fan and. I don't like it when Kobe takes a ton of shots but I take the good with the bad. At times Kobe would have to take those shots to save his team.
The data puts some more perspective that we should not not just focus on LIMITED facts but the totality.
I want to know though, If you can put also the negative stats when ESPN was putting Lebron James on their pedestal in his rookie year.
ESPN, almost every week would state James as youngest guy to score, rebounded, assisted etc etc. Heck they never put, youngest player to brick this many shots, or to commit this many turnovers.
My point is, James also played extensively in his rookie year UNLIKE Bryant and yet they NEVER focussed on his NEGATIVE stats.
Why thank you my friend.
I also thought of the Prince as well, but I was like...save that for another day.
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good scorer
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by gts
exactly... he's in his 15th season age has nothing to do with it per se... not many folks that will have racked up 18 seasons? assuming he stay that long when it's all said and done he'll lead or be at the top of some categories because he was good some for other reasons and some strictly because he played so long
SO WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT
We're gonna focus on the fact he was the youngest to score so many points? but not bricks? you can't have it both ways.
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Da Bulls.
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by Rose
Why thank you my friend.
I also thought of the Prince as well, but I was like...save that for another day.
Let it get to like page 8 first.
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Shit just got serious
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by Rose
SO WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT
We're gonna focus on the fact he was the youngest to score so many points? but not bricks? you can't have it both ways.
We're not ESPN. Well, not most of us. We don't vary by age in this modern day. We go by seasons and minutes played and then there's several other stats that you factor in aswell.
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good scorer
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by Batz
We're not ESPN. Well, not most of us. We don't vary by age in this modern day. We go by seasons and minutes played and then there's several other stats that you factor in aswell.
Regardless, if you take the shot you take the shot. We can all agree Wilt, MJ, West, Malone, Kareem they all played around 20 seasons. Which is what Kobe will play. The point is, he doesn't shoot as well as those guys did.
I look at it this way Favre has the most TDs and picks mostly because he played so long.
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Master
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by Batz
We're not ESPN. Well, not most of us. We don't vary by age in this modern day. We go by seasons and minutes played and then there's several other stats that you factor in aswell.
I would rep you but, I was attacked by racists in the off thread forum =p.
Kobe's been in the NBA for a long time of course he is going to have alot of missed shots because he has been the primary offense for his team for so many years.
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NBA Legend
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by Rose
Here's the brick leaders
Career missed shots:
John Havlicek 13,417 shots
Elvin Hayes 13,296 shots
Karl Malone 12,682 shots
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
12,470 shots
Michael Jordan 12,345 shots
Dominique Wilkins 11,626 shots
Elgin Baylor 11,478 shots
Allen Iverson 11,418 shots
Wilt Chamberlain 10,816 shots
Kobe Bryant 10,501 shots
Alex English 10,377 shots
Hal Greer 10,307 shots
Bob Cousy 10,300 shots
Hakeem Olajuwon 10,242 shots
Oscar Robertson 10,112 shots
Jerry West 10,016 shots
This is an interesting list.....How does that one saying go? You miss all of the shots you dont take?
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good scorer
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by N0Skillz
Kobe's been in the NBA for a long time of course he is going to have alot of missed shots because he has been the primary offense for his team for so many years.
Like what 7 years?
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Master
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by Rose
Like what 7 years?
how about when he started averaging 15 FGA a game
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Da Bulls.
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
Originally Posted by Rose
Like what 7 years?
Oh man you seriously do not even care one bit, do you....lol
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Biyombo Smash!!
Re: Kobe Bryant, Chasing History!
looks like kobe's in pretty good company there with wilt chamberlain, elgin baylor, michael jordan, dominique wilkins and kareem. way to go, kobe. anytime your name is mentioned with those guys you know you're doing something right.
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