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Old 08-05-2009, 07:23 AM   #16
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im gonna turn in to kevin spacey from se7en, but only concentrate on hookers for while because they are such easy targets.

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Old 09-28-2009, 01:31 PM   #17
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i think this guy should get a round of bjs from the finest harlots ish has to offer.
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:57 PM   #18
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if anyone wants to read it, this a prostitution paper some kid paid me to write.

Deviance is socially constructed and varies over time, geography and context. Any activity or action contrary to the established norms of society is deviant. Prostitution is universally viewed as the act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire ( Davidson, 2002). It is widely recognized as the oldest occupation in the world because it has existed since we were able to document history. However, that does not change the overall perception of its deviance. Along with the obvious criminal deviance of prostitution, there is also the overriding negative impact many believe it has on society (Sullivan, 2005)
Much contemporary debate about prostitution centers on environmental effects on communities, a concept that includes disorderly public conduct, potential harm to children, harassment of and violence against women, nasty paraphernalia, and so on. Many see the public sale of sex acts as a virus that attacks the good fiber of community, spawns a host of spin-off crimes and deviant behaviors, and cultivates unwanted subcultures and communities at the expense of traditional community, flourishing businesses, and mundane civic culture (Brents and Hausbeck, 2005). The more recent AIDS crisis continues to frame prostitutes as vectors of disease and a potential threat to heterosexual populations. Many view prostitution as a deviant institution, contrary to the norms established in society within a recognized moral code.
Although there are many forms of prostitution, the most stigmatized is street prostitution. This form of sex work is intrinsically related to poverty. Female prostitutes are disproportionately young ethnic minorities who are impoverished, uneducated and possess few marketable skills( Davidson, 2002) . Viewed as depraved individuals, lawmakers have and continue to chastise these women through the law. Consistency in enforcing prostitution laws, which includes laws against patronizing prostitutes, nonetheless, has been and continues to be inequitable. Many believe there is a structural racism, sexism and classism tied to the contemporary female prostitute (Davidson, 2002).
The public perception of prostitution has evolved over time. Early feminist reformers identified the key problem with prostitution as male lust that lured innocent women into a depraved life as prostitutes. They saw violence in the force and coercion used to transform innocent women to prostitutes (Sullivan 1995). Upon entrance into prostitution, young women are further exploited and subjected to widespread violence from pimps, madams, and customers (Brents and Hausbeck, 2005). These policies also assume prostitutes are helpless victims, leading critics to assert that this perspective is paternalistic and disempowering to women.
The wide array of criminalization policies argue that prostitution brings danger and violence to prostitutes and to their customers. Proponents of criminalization argue that the only way to protect against these dangers is to stand collectively against the commercial sale of sex and to prosecute purveyors of prostitution (Sullivan, 2005). Pro-legalization advocates argue that prostitution is an unstoppable social exchange and that the most efficient and effective means to eliminate the violence and protect all parties involved is for the government to regulate prostitution through legalization (Brents and Hausbeck, 2005).
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:58 PM   #19
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The feminist perspective of deviance points out that studies of deviance have over focused the male model of offending. Girls and women have an extremely different position within society and must deal with greater barriers and odds rather than opportunities afforded to men (Chesney-Lind, 1989). Feminists also champion the importance of race and poverty on female problems and delinquency. Society is believed to be constructed through male dominance (Sullivan, 1995). Feminists hold a belief in the cycle of victimization to criminalization, a continuum which illustrates how the pervasive abuse of young women drives them to criminal activity. Feminists also tie this sentiment to a structural disadvantage for women within society which leads to a pathway of deviance and crime.
Other theories of deviance are haphazardly applied to women and are inadequate in explaining female behavior within patriarchal society (Chesney-Lind, 1989). The juvenile justice system is a major force in female oppression because this institution only reinforces the obedience of all young women to patriarchal authority and maintains female status beneath men. Agencies of social control like the police and the courts mold woman’s subordinate place in male society. Feminist thought views prostitution within a capitalist patriarchy which is inherently oppressive towards women (Overall, 1992). Many sex workers are viewed as bad women, not only by the whole of society, but also by many feminists.
Traditionally, prostitution is viewed as a social problem and an unqualified evil (Weitzer, 2006). Many view prostitution as a moral panic and an insidious menace and threat to morality and society. In the past decade, there has been a growing crackdown on the sex industry in the United States and abroad. This moral crusade against prostitution has gained wide ranging support from many powerful factions of our society. These crusaders believe they are on a righteous mission to stomp out evildoers and help victims. These individuals target policy makers and political elites to address their specific issue. This helps legitimize their cause, affirm their moral standards elevate their status, offer an influx of new resources and give them endorsement by the state (Wietzer, 2006).
An alliance of the Christian right and the radical feminists form the coalition against prostitution. Religious conservatives view prostitution as a symbol of sexual liberalism, moral decay and family breakdown. A government crackdown on prostitution thus ratifies the Christian right’s views on sex and the family. Radical feminists (one faction) hold the traditional view of feminism and apply it to prostitution as male domination, exploitation and violence against women in every form, voluntary or not. The sale of women reduces all women to sex and may not be tolerated in any sense in the view of this group.
Although these two groups of activists are in strong opposition in regards to such prevalent social issues as abortion and same-sex marriage, they have vehemently joined together against the sex industry. This movement claims prostitution creates an environment of pervasive violence, the victimization and exploitation of women and legalization would only make it worse (Wietzer, 2006). The far right portion of the coalition maintains prostitution is sinful, immoral and harmful to the family while the extreme feminists echo how prostitution is oppressive to women.
Prostitution has always been a substantive yet divisive core issue of the feminist theory. It is wrong to assume all feminists think alike on such a watershed issue. There are many divisions within feminism regarding prostitution, but there is one major schism. Society has held the traditional views of prostitutes as social misfits, sexual slaves, victims of pimps and drug addiction, tools of organized crime (Jenness, 1990). This changed in the 1970’s and 1980’s when COYOTE (Call Off Your Old Tired Ethics) was established.
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:58 PM   #20
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Coyote was the leading prostitutes’ rights organization of the time who advocated the repeal of all existing prostitution laws. This group wanted to reconstruct prostitution as a credible service occupation and protect prostitute’s rights as legitimate workers (Overall, 1992). Most problems are related to prohibition of prostitution and the stigma attached to sex and sex work. The COYOTE view is that prostitution should be viewed as work not crime, women who work as prostitutes choose to do so, prostitution is work that people should have the right to choose and should be respected and protected like work in legitimate service occupations (Jenness, 1990). COYOTE made prostitution an issue of work and civil rights, hoping to redefine prostitution as a social problem while empowering prostitutes and legitimizing their work (Overall, 1992).
The counter to COYOTE was WHISPER (Women Hurt in Systems of Prostitution Engaged in Revolt) who gained prominence in the early 1980’s. This group was in complete contrast to COYOTE and believed all prostitutes are victims, no women chose this life, prostitution is an institution created by patriarchy to control and abuse women. WHISPER holds the traditional Feminist views of gender stratification and sex discrimination founded on enforced sexual abuse under a system of male supremacy that is built along a continuum of coercion (Jenness, 1990). Women do not freely choose prostitution. Pimp controlled prostitution is seen equivalent to female sexual slavery. These feminists want to abolish prostitution completely and rescue prostitutes from their inherently powerless position.
For nearly four decade, Nevada has been a haven for legalized prostitution. There is a large debate whether brothels are truly a safer alternative to criminalized prostitution or are they really just a state-sanctioned form of the oppression of women. Brents and Hausbeck’s study of Nevada brothels concludes that legalizing, regulating and decriminalizing prostitution lowers the threat of violence and makes a positive impact.
The Nevada Brothels successfully addressed the three major frames of violence; interpersonal violence against prostitutes, violence against community order and the violence of disease (Brents and Hausbeck, 2005). Strict regulations, preventative practices and safety mechanisms are instituted within the framework of the brothel system to maintain safety and legitimacy. Every financial transaction is monitored and recorded ensuring economic and social viability of transaction. There is a great emphasis on cleanliness and safety, illustrated by an internal intercom system, panic buttons and close surveillance (outside of the sexual act).
Nevada strives to add class to a notoriously back alley transaction. The establishment may choose who to serve and may call on law enforcement using their discretion. If there is any trouble, quick action is taken. The Brothel owners want to maximize profit and safety while maintaining their image as law-abiding, businesses. It is important for these entrepreneurs to foster good relations within their communities so they may maintain their brothel licenses.
The house itself is very secure because of restrictions on movement of the girls and the omniscient surveillance. Employees are routinely screened and must take health tests. Condoms are a prerequisite and help erase the dirty stigma of street prostitution. The overriding theme of these brothels is safety. Safety allows greater profits and allows this unique regulatory system to persist (Brents and Hausbeck, 2005). The controlling nature of the policies are necessary for protection of everyone involved.
Brothels minimize danger and protect the public from disease and violence. Women can break away from the shackles of pimps and continue sex work in a more safe and stable environment. Within the brothel, danger is always present, but brothels offer the safest environment available for women to sell consensual sex acts for money ((Brents and Hausbeck, 2005). The Nevada mantra is safety through regulation and protection by minimizing danger, risk and violence. There is a concerted encouragement of safe sex and minimize the risk of disease transmission. Prostitution is inherently dangerous, but the brothel system minimizes risk, combats violence, contains fear, empowers women and even strengthens communities (Brents and Hausbeck, 2005).
Prostitution is a traditionally deviant issue in our society which is routinely present in our everyday news cycle. The complexity of this issue is illustrated in the fact that within the feminist community there is no clear consensus on how to approach the issue of prostitution. Although we have seen that the feminist viewpoint looks to empower women from a historically oppressive patriarchal social structure, we have also seen there is a counterpoint within the feminist theory. While the prevailing voice of feminism views the deviance of prostitution through a lens of male dominance and female subordination, the other diametrically opposed side denies the deviance of prostitution and instead looks to gain recognition for women in the sex industry. Prostitution has been a staple within our country and a pervasive element of the underbelly of our society, and has only made minimal progress in shedding its ignominious and infamous perception of the majority of our country.
Although prostitution may never become in tune with common societal norms, efforts are being made by groups like COYOTE to give a voice and representation to the sex worker of our time. In addition, even though the “good” girls of WHISPER may view the “bad”, victimized prostitutes as beneath them, WHISPER still looks to assist these women, albeit in a condescending manner. These contrasting groups share the same goal of helping women, but each has a completely different outlook on how to help women in prostitution.
There will be no drastic change in the future of prostitution. Certain moral groups will always view prostitution as inherently deviant and will be against the institution while certain business entrepreneurs will always strive to legitimize the profession. Prostitution will evolve with technology as we have seen on numerous escort services and will thrive as the market dictates. The Nevada model of regulation and safety may prove the most successful way to prevent the ugly and criminal nature of prostitution. They have maintained early success in limiting some of the more deviant factors and behaviors associated with prostitution. The brothel phenomenon in Nevada has challenged the majority perception of prostitution as a deviant institution which only adds to the detriment of society No matter your perspective on the issue, it is clear prostitution will not be going away anytime soon, and the world’s oldest profession will continue to generate money throughout the world.
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Old 08-26-2010, 01:54 PM   #21
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bump for the narrative
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:03 PM   #22
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i was in deep thought during the whole ordeal

"this is someones daughter, sister, best friend"
"does she really expect me to drink after her sloppy lips were all over that?"
"I WONDER IF I KILLED HER, WOULD ANYONE KNOW!!!! "

she would tell me, im all alone out here, i don't even have a room...

i should have killed her.

We all have regrets.
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:20 PM   #23
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This dude was on Union Avenue in Bakersfield, CA. And I'm pretty sure I've eaten at the Pho restaurant he was talking about. That area is sketch as fuck. I had to pull over for gas off the highway on that street and I couldn't wait to gtfo. I felt like my prime skinny white ass was about to get robbed, raped and murdered.

Don't miss that place at all.
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:25 PM   #24
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This dude was on Union Avenue in Bakersfield, CA. And I'm pretty sure I've eaten at the Pho restaurant he was talking about. That area is sketch as fuck. I had to pull over for gas off the highway on that street and I couldn't wait to gtfo. I felt like my prime skinny white ass was about to get robbed, raped and murdered.

Don't miss that place at all.

how do u know that? he didn't exactly make it explicit in his post
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:30 PM   #25
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how do u know that? he didn't exactly make it explicit in his post

He told me he was from Bakersfield and I lived there last summer. I was always told that Union was where all the crime went down. I lived on the same side of town as it. And my boss took me to the pho restaurant for dinner the first night I was there. It was damn good. As we walked back to the car, these couple black dudes were all cracked out and yelling at us.
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Old 08-26-2010, 04:06 PM   #26
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He said in the OP he was close to Fresno, Bako is like 2 hours away. I was thinking more like Madera because that place is a shithole too, but I guess Bako works too.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:45 AM   #27
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bump, its bakersfield.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:50 AM   #28
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homie was in Stockton, the Pho restaurant gives it away, tons of SE Asians up in that bi*tch, it is a shithole if there ever was one, meth everywhere.
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bump, its bakersfield.
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Old 01-20-2011, 03:57 AM   #30
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i just ate there last night.

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