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Old 01-24-2011, 12:41 AM   #31
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Is Sloan signed for next season?
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Old 01-24-2011, 05:48 PM   #32
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Yeah I think he signed his annual extension already.

Saw this as well. Of course no surprise. A solid 6th place team why would you look to improve?

Jazz's Sloan has received no indication Utah plans to make a major trade before deadline. Said team has to rely on itself.
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Old 02-06-2011, 12:47 AM   #33
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We have a few holes on this team and one of it is at the wings.
We have no reliable wing players at all, not on the 1st team or the bench.
Bell and AK47 aren't starter material, not both of them anyway. AK can still start if we have a true scoring guard but Bell isn't one.

Rookie Hayward had one good week so far, a bunch of decent weeks and a terrible Oct-Nov. Miles will put up 20+ one night and then shit bricks the night.
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Old 02-10-2011, 06:50 PM   #34
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We have a few holes on this team and one of it is at the wings.
We have no reliable wing players at all, not on the 1st team or the bench.
Bell and AK47 aren't starter material, not both of them anyway. AK can still start if we have a true scoring guard but Bell isn't one.

Bell is playing his best ball of late. Please talk trash about someone else now. They all seem to start playing better when you do. Matthews and Brewer would certinly be mice to have around especially Matthews.

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Rookie Hayward had one good week so far, a bunch of decent weeks and a terrible Oct-Nov. Miles will put up 20+ one night and then shit bricks the night.

That's why they're not getting paid the big bucks. You want to spend money on players other than on PF's you might get better production.

Ty Corbin!!!
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Old 02-10-2011, 08:04 PM   #35
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Bell is playing his best ball of late. Please talk trash about someone else now. They all seem to start playing better when you do.
It's about damn time he did!
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Old 02-13-2011, 06:59 PM   #36
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You shouldn't have expected much out of a guy his age that just missed a season. There is a reason no one else wanted to pay him as much as the Jazz did and even at that you can't expect much for that kind of money. If they had used some money to improve the position instead of giving Okur a ridiculous extension or trading away 3 1st rounders for Jefferson when they already had Milsap we wouldn't even be talking about it.
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Old 03-07-2011, 07:58 PM   #37
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Utah continues on two fronts. One places the organization in the hands of talented veterans such as Al Jefferson, Paul Millsap and Devin Harris, who have yet to hit their prime and are playing under relatively affordable contracts.

Jefferson and Harris are both overpaid unless Harris returns to his all-star form of a couple years ago. Millsap is a bargain.

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The other hints at instant rebuilding 2010 lottery picks Derrick Favors and Gordon Hayward have played key minutes for the Jazz in the past two weeks while refusing to accept that the reset button has been fully pressed.

Everyone from Jefferson and Harris to coach Tyrone Corbin said they have received no indication that the team that writes their checks has cashed in on a frustrating season. But all acknowledged that gunning for the postseason while occasionally peeking at the future is a difficult balance.

LOL! If they were thinking about this year they wouldn't be short on players especially after all the money they just saved in the trade. Possibly 8 players tonite with a roster spot still open.
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Yeah, Jefferson is looking more like a loser.

Didn't win in Boston, bottom-feeder in Minnesota and now he f'ed up the Jazz.

His first season = Sloan and Williams gone, also no playoffs.
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Old 03-07-2011, 11:03 PM   #39
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Blame KOC and the FO for the Jazz's woes, picking up Raja Bell with a 3 year contract was a huge mistake, we didn't do anything to help our situation at the wings.

To say he f*cked up the Jazz is wrong. Al Jefferson has been the guy to actually put a ton of effort and put this team on his back, even with a team that isn't very good.

The Jazz miss Jerry more then a lot of people and a certain poster in this thread think, our mental toughness tonight was pathetic, we would have brought a lot more toughness if we had Sloan.

I hope we get Harrison Barnes or Terrence Jones in the draft, and maybe Jimmer if we get up to 11-14th range with the other pick.

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Old 03-08-2011, 07:33 PM   #40
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Blame KOC and the FO for the Jazz's woes, picking up Raja Bell with a 3 year contract was a huge mistake, we didn't do anything to help our situation at the wings.

If Sloan didn't love Bell so much they might not have got him. Letting Matthews go is one of the worst moves in franchise history. Going cheap at other more needed positions so they could get another overpaid PF when they already had Milsap still has me scratching my head.

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To say he f*cked up the Jazz is wrong. Al Jefferson has been the guy to actually put a ton of effort and put this team on his back, even with a team that isn't very good.

He takes lots of shots but it doesn't equal wins. If he was the player his stats and contract indicate he is they should be good.

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The Jazz miss Jerry more then a lot of people and a certain poster in this thread think, our mental toughness tonight was pathetic, we would have brought a lot more toughness if we had Sloan.

They sucked with Sloan so to say they miss him is a stretch.

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I hope we get Harrison Barnes or Terrence Jones in the draft, and maybe Jimmer if we get up to 11-14th range with the other pick.

Do they play center or pg? Are they going to be stars? It looks like they will definitely have 2 lottery picks to play with and Jimmer is ranked in the top 10 from what I saw.

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Old 03-08-2011, 09:24 PM   #41
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Sloan's system probably wasn't going to win a championship, but how the hell can you say he sucked as a coach, is having 50+ win seasons every season in one of the smallest markets in the NBA bad, because I don't consider it.

If Sloan really sucked as a coach with numerous 50 win seasons, than Ty Corbin might be the worst coach in history under what your standards of Jerry.

While yeah, the Jazz could have maybe gone after Matthews, but we would have been big time over the cap/luxury tax, and the Jazz are one of numerous teams that don't want to go over the cap/luxury tax too much. Matthews contract was pretty frontloaded and a lot. Jefferson's contract might not be the best ever, but who we're the Jazz going to get in the mean time while we have Paul at PF, and who at C when Okur has/was been out for this long?

Harrison Barnes and Terrence Jones are probably going to be the best available if we're at 7-10 range, their good wing players that we might need. A Center wouldn't be a bad pick-up, but you're going to have to do something with Okur/Jefferson or Millsap.

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Old 03-09-2011, 07:39 PM   #42
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Sloan's system probably wasn't going to win a championship

Than why keep him as coach when you have players that should be winning titles?

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how the hell can you say he sucked as a coach

I said the Jazz sucked before Corbin took over. He left at the right time. Now everyone can forget the way they were playing and blame it all on Ty despite not having the same superstar pg as Sloan.

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is having 50+ win seasons every season in one of the smallest markets in the NBA bad, because I don't consider it

With Stockton and Malone anyone would have won just as the jester Frank Layden did before him and just as you or I would have. Question is could anyone else have done a better job and won big? I say yes.

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If Sloan really sucked as a coach with numerous 50 win seasons, than Ty Corbin might be the worst coach in history under what your standards of Jerry.

He might be and hopefully he gets fired like Sloan should have been 20 years ago when they went from 1st to 3rd like any other coach in sports would have been. I doubt it can get worse than Layden though. Even PJ beats out Frank on a list of coaches.

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the Jazz could have maybe gone after Matthews, but we would have been big time over the cap/luxury tax, and the Jazz are one of numerous teams that don't want to go over the cap/luxury tax too much. Matthews contract was pretty frontloaded and a lot.

Wouldn't have paid any luxury tax to sign Matthews. Jefferson is where the luxury tax came in not mention the stupid extention they gave Okur the year before. Matthews is looking like a potential all-star and would have been a bargain after this year just as Millsap is now. They would be a better team with him instead of Jefferson/Bell/Elson even though Sloan wouldn't have taken advantage of all his skills like the great McMillan has.

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Jefferson's contract might not be the best ever, but who we're the Jazz going to get in the mean time while we have Paul at PF, and who at C when Okur has/was been out for this long?
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I don't know maybe an actual center that plays a different game than Paul?

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Harrison Barnes and Terrence Jones are probably going to be the best available if we're at 7-10 range, their good wing players that we might need.

It's a long ways to even predict. Already have young wings. I'd just as soon they traded for an OJ Mayo than the next Evan Turner at a position they already have filled.


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A Center wouldn't be a bad pick-up, but you're going to have to do something with Okur/Jefferson or Millsap.

Why? They need a young center regardless not to mention vets that aren't overpaid and underachieving. The Ukarainean stiff isn't it. Koufos might have been but they gave him away in the ill-advised Jefferson deal.
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