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Old 07-01-2011, 11:01 AM   #1
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Default Cavaliers Trade Hickson to Kings for Casspi+1st Round 2012 Pick

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The Cleveland Cavaliers have traded power forward J.J. Hickson to the Sacramento Kings for swingman Omri Casspi and Sacramento's protected first-round pick in the 2012 NBA draft.

The teams apparently sought to complete the deal Thursday before midnight to ensure its completion, with a lockout expected at 12:01 a.m. ET Friday.

The Cavaliers traded J.J. Hickson, above, to the Kings Thursday for Omri Casspi and a first-round pick.
The Cavaliers have been shopping Hickson for some time and have decided to part with the young power forward in exchange for Casspi, who has been coveted for his combination of defense, energy and underrated perimeter shooting by numerous teams after two solid seasons with the Kings.

"We like Casspi," said Cavs general manager Chris Grant, who wouldn't say if he expects Casspi to start immediately. "He's a tough, athletic, 6-foot-9 kid. He's got a nastiness and fight about him."

Casspi, who said in a teleconference from Los Angeles that he was excited about coming to Cleveland to play for coach Byron Scott, wondered what Grant meant about him being "nasty."

"Sometimes I play hard," he said with a laugh, "and sometimes I might play too hard."

Grant was quick to point out that Casspi, who played two seasons with the Kings, made 47 percent of his 3-point tries from the corner, another weapon for Scott and a target for Irving.

"It gives us a chance to give the guys room to grow on the court together and gives our roster more balance financially moving forward," Grant said. "I felt that, where our team is, and where it's headed, that this was the right move for our franchise."

The deal, though, also illustrates the decline in Hickson's stature within the Cavaliers' organization. As recently as the 2010 trade deadline, Cleveland's talks with Phoenix on a trade for Amare Stoudemire stalled in part because of the Cavs' reported reluctance to include Hickson in the deal -- although sources with knowledge of those talks insisted Thursday that the Cavs were prepared to go through with the deal and that the Suns were the team that backed away.

Hickson, 22, became a focal point of Cleveland's offense last season after the free-agent defection of LeBron James, but he clashed at times with Cavs coach Byron Scott despite averaging 13.8 points and 8.7 rebounds in 28.2 minutes per game.

"I'm kind of glad it's over with so my name is not involved in so many trade rumors," Hickson said. "I think the Kings did a good job in picking up a young athletic big that is going to give his all and give it 110 percent."

Sources say Sacramento, meanwhile, thinks it can make room for Hickson by shifting prized second-year forward DeMarcus Cousins to center on occasion. The Kings also still have Jason Thompson as another trade asset with Cousins and Hickson ahead of him.

"This is a chance to acquire a young player that has already proven himself to a pretty decent level in the league and someone who can strengthen our roster," Kings GM Geoff Petrie said. "There is still a lot of upside there. A lot of the players taken in the draft a week ago are not that much younger than J.J. and he has had three years in the league and he was getting more productive each year."

Kings coach Paul Westphal is excited about the Hickson-Cousins-Thompson trio.

"He is a really good fit," Westphal said. "All three of those players can play a little bit (of) center and power forward. It gives us a very solid rotation. (Hickson) has shown versatility and ability to fit in. I don't think that you necessarily have to run every play for him to have him be effective. But at the same time, he can be effective if you run plays for him.

"He's somebody that we are getting at a real good time in his career. He's already shown a track record of success.

What do you think? Good? Bad? I sort of like it. With how much I liked Hickson, Thompson should probably do an okay job of replacing him. And Casspi helps fill a weak hole at SF for us. Grant it, he's not a star or anything, but he's a solid player the last two years basically averaging 10/5 in 25 minutes of play. He's a solid shooter from three.

Ask for the Kings I don't really get why they do this. They lose a first round pick and solid role-player to have a log jam at PF/C?

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Old 07-03-2011, 09:32 PM   #2
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nice trade, does anybody know if the pick is protected?

so this off season we've picked up casspi, irving, and tristan, all high character guys. it seems like since bron left thats become a priority, i guess i like it, but when we start to reach for guys just because they seem like nice guys ill start to get frustrated.

(im assuming casspi is a good guy becasue ive heard nothing bad about him and hes jewish)
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Old 07-06-2011, 05:17 AM   #3
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nice trade, does anybody know if the pick is protected?

so this off season we've picked up casspi, irving, and tristan, all high character guys. it seems like since bron left thats become a priority, i guess i like it, but when we start to reach for guys just because they seem like nice guys ill start to get frustrated.

(im assuming casspi is a good guy becasue ive heard nothing bad about him and hes jewish)

The pick is lottery protected in 2012, and then gradually changing to top 10 protected in 2017 or something like that. Basically it's never going to be one of the top picks, but it could be a solid pick in the middle of the 1st round.

Anyway, I'm not that big a fan of Casspi, and the pick is not that great, but we kinda needed to get rid of Hickson after drafting Thompson, so I feel like it was more a trade of necessity that anything else.
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Old 07-10-2011, 02:04 PM   #4
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I always thought that Casspi could be better than Hickson. He just never got the time to develop in Sacramento...
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Old 07-13-2011, 09:38 AM   #5
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Cavs must be really sure of Tristan Thompson.You guys know JJ Hickson was the main reason Amare Stoudemire wasnt a Cavalier when LeBrick was there right?Now you trade the guy you sacrificed alot for to get Casspi and a pick? They must be very confident in Thompson to make such a bold move but that might actually be an encouraging sign! Good luck my fellow ****lebroners! From a die hard Knicks fan
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Old 07-13-2011, 06:52 PM   #6
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Cavs must be really sure of Tristan Thompson.You guys know JJ Hickson was the main reason Amare Stoudemire wasnt a Cavalier when LeBrick was there right?Now you trade the guy you sacrificed alot for to get Casspi and a pick? They must be very confident in Thompson to make such a bold move but that might actually be an encouraging sign! Good luck my fellow ****lebroners! From a die hard Knicks fan

Thats not true, it was phoenix who said no, cleveland offered the deal.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4913305
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The ball is in Phoenix's court. The Suns are mulling whether the financial relief provided by Ilgauskas' $12 million contract and the young and talented Hickson are enough for them to part with Stoudemire.
-from the article
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Old 07-14-2011, 09:30 PM   #7
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Nice try Chips, but people just believe what they want to regarding that failed Amare deal.

RBA and I have repeatedly tried to educate people on it, and it is just ignored by the majority. i've grown way to tired of correcting people on it. but it's a source of misinformation that just won't go away... sigh
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