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Old 04-06-2012, 03:43 AM   #2401
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You act like the fact that he wrote the audio forensic software that he uses himself is some sort of disqualifying fact rather than a sign of expertise.

I agree that his qualifications need to be looked into, but I would say that somebody who is surprised that forensic audio software costs $5,000 is probably not the most qualified guy to do that. So "destroys him? Um, not so much.

Judges all over the country have found him creditable as an audio expert.

Hey Kev I'm sorry I was rude the other night in this thread. It's cool to disagree on a forum but my posts were just ugly and I'm not proud of them. Hope you can accept my apology
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Old 04-06-2012, 06:19 AM   #2402
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Hey Kev I'm sorry I was rude the other night in this thread. It's cool to disagree on a forum but my posts were just ugly and I'm not proud of them. Hope you can accept my apology


Hmmmm not sure If serious...

If ya are, that's dope man.
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Old 04-06-2012, 08:03 AM   #2403
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Hmmmm not sure If serious...

If ya are, that's dope man.

I am serious and thx. If I do something wrong online I feel icky.

I don't regret my posts to Jailblazers though, only to Kevin
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Old 04-06-2012, 10:26 AM   #2404
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We should be somewhat thankful that this happened before this guy became a cop. Who knows how many innocent black people he would have arrested/beat/murdered then.
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:58 AM   #2405
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Hey Kev I'm sorry I was rude the other night in this thread. It's cool to disagree on a forum but my posts were just ugly and I'm not proud of them. Hope you can accept my apology

Apology accepted. That's big of you.
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Old 04-06-2012, 11:58 AM   #2406
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I am serious and thx. If I do something wrong online I feel icky.

I don't regret my posts to Jailblazers though, only to Kevin

That's slightly less big of you.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:01 PM   #2407
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Good news - Bad news for Zimmerman.

A forensic audio expert determined that Zimmerman said "punks" and not "coons" on his 911 call. That's the Good News.

The bad news is earlier, the same audio expert determined it wasn't Zimmerman screaming for help on the 911 call.


Processed audio is at the first link.


More on audio forensics
Good info Kev.

While I have been saying the screams are the key to the case I don't don't think that argument gains a lot here. Zimmerman has to claim the screams. He can't claim that Trayvon is violent and threatening his life while just sitting on top of him looking into his eyes while he, Zim, screams help me. It is obvious that there is no pummeling going or a head being negotiated on concrete in those screams. His cross examination is going to be brutal.

I don't know if the audio guy had hooked on phonics but I definitely don't hear the P sound in punks at all so I don't know how well that one works. How do yall hear it???
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:06 PM   #2408
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Good info Kev.

While I have been saying the screams are the key to the case I don't don't think that argument gains a lot here. Zimmerman has to claim the screams. He can't claim that Trayvon is violent and threatening his life while just sitting on top of him looking into his eyes while he, Zim, screams help me. It is obvious that there is no pummeling going or a head being negotiated on concrete in those screams. His cross examination is going to be brutal.

I don't know if the audio guy had hooked on phonics but I definitely don't hear the P sound in punks at all so I don't know how well that one works. How do yall hear it???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJLA9vr97qw

This is CNN's video where they determine it says "it's fcking cold".

Honestly, every time I read that it's something new and then I listen to the tape, I hear whatever I just read. It's too soft and distorted to truly make it out and we are all subject to the power of suggestion.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:07 PM   #2409
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The guys name is Tom Owen, and this link totally destroys him:

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-lineh...rsenic-experts

Basically he is looking to sell his bullshit product/company and get his 15 minutes. That "state of the art" program he used to determine this? Dude made it himself. And it costs $5000.

He's also got a quote on his own website where he basically says the comparison he made is impossible.
In general, most journalist have participated in piece-meal with this story. Even the newscaster tried to distance himself from the story by saying he didn't hear it. More than likely he didn't agree with it. But I do think other people will be involved at this level when it's said and done.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:08 PM   #2410
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJLA9vr97qw

This is CNN's video where they determine it says "it's fcking cold".

Honestly, every time I read that it's something new and then I listen to the tape, I hear whatever I just read. It's too soft and distorted to truly make it out and we are all subject to the power of suggestion.
Agreed.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:09 PM   #2411
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Good info Kev.

While I have been saying the screams are the key to the case I don't don't think that argument gains a lot here. Zimmerman has to claim the screams. He can't claim that Trayvon is violent and threatening his life while just sitting on top of him looking into his eyes while he, Zim, screams help me. It is obvious that there is no pummeling going or a head being negotiated on concrete in those screams. His cross examination is going to be brutal.

I don't know if the audio guy had hooked on phonics but I definitely don't hear the P sound in punks at all so I don't know how well that one works. How do yall hear it???
Cross examination? He hasn't been arrested or charged with anything.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:10 PM   #2412
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maybe Zimmerman was simply lamenting on his "lack of poon"

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Old 04-06-2012, 03:27 PM   #2413
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Cross examination? He hasn't been arrested or charged with anything.

he hasnt been charged because he is not guilty

he is a true american

he was a captain

he made it happen...

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Old 04-06-2012, 03:40 PM   #2414
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Cross examination? He hasn't been arrested or charged with anything.
Still can be hit with a civil suite or civil rights violations even without that.
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:16 AM   #2415
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I heard on cnn on thursday that the state attorney will most likely make a decision in no later than 5-6 days .. so I guess we'll know by tuesday/wednesday possibly
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