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Old 04-06-2012, 11:58 AM   #2386
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I don't regret my posts to Jailblazers though, only to Kevin

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Old 04-06-2012, 02:01 PM   #2387
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Good news - Bad news for Zimmerman.

A forensic audio expert determined that Zimmerman said "punks" and not "coons" on his 911 call. That's the Good News.

The bad news is earlier, the same audio expert determined it wasn't Zimmerman screaming for help on the 911 call.


Processed audio is at the first link.


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Good info Kev.

While I have been saying the screams are the key to the case I don't don't think that argument gains a lot here. Zimmerman has to claim the screams. He can't claim that Trayvon is violent and threatening his life while just sitting on top of him looking into his eyes while he, Zim, screams help me. It is obvious that there is no pummeling going or a head being negotiated on concrete in those screams. His cross examination is going to be brutal.

I don't know if the audio guy had hooked on phonics but I definitely don't hear the P sound in punks at all so I don't know how well that one works. How do yall hear it???
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:06 PM   #2388
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Good info Kev.

While I have been saying the screams are the key to the case I don't don't think that argument gains a lot here. Zimmerman has to claim the screams. He can't claim that Trayvon is violent and threatening his life while just sitting on top of him looking into his eyes while he, Zim, screams help me. It is obvious that there is no pummeling going or a head being negotiated on concrete in those screams. His cross examination is going to be brutal.

I don't know if the audio guy had hooked on phonics but I definitely don't hear the P sound in punks at all so I don't know how well that one works. How do yall hear it???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJLA9vr97qw

This is CNN's video where they determine it says "it's fcking cold".

Honestly, every time I read that it's something new and then I listen to the tape, I hear whatever I just read. It's too soft and distorted to truly make it out and we are all subject to the power of suggestion.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:07 PM   #2389
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The guys name is Tom Owen, and this link totally destroys him:

http://www.wagist.com/2012/dan-lineh...rsenic-experts

Basically he is looking to sell his bullshit product/company and get his 15 minutes. That "state of the art" program he used to determine this? Dude made it himself. And it costs $5000.

He's also got a quote on his own website where he basically says the comparison he made is impossible.
In general, most journalist have participated in piece-meal with this story. Even the newscaster tried to distance himself from the story by saying he didn't hear it. More than likely he didn't agree with it. But I do think other people will be involved at this level when it's said and done.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:08 PM   #2390
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJLA9vr97qw

This is CNN's video where they determine it says "it's fcking cold".

Honestly, every time I read that it's something new and then I listen to the tape, I hear whatever I just read. It's too soft and distorted to truly make it out and we are all subject to the power of suggestion.
Agreed.
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Old 04-06-2012, 02:09 PM   #2391
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Good info Kev.

While I have been saying the screams are the key to the case I don't don't think that argument gains a lot here. Zimmerman has to claim the screams. He can't claim that Trayvon is violent and threatening his life while just sitting on top of him looking into his eyes while he, Zim, screams help me. It is obvious that there is no pummeling going or a head being negotiated on concrete in those screams. His cross examination is going to be brutal.

I don't know if the audio guy had hooked on phonics but I definitely don't hear the P sound in punks at all so I don't know how well that one works. How do yall hear it???
Cross examination? He hasn't been arrested or charged with anything.
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Old 04-06-2012, 03:27 PM   #2392
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Cross examination? He hasn't been arrested or charged with anything.

he hasnt been charged because he is not guilty

he is a true american

he was a captain

he made it happen...

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Old 04-06-2012, 03:40 PM   #2393
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Cross examination? He hasn't been arrested or charged with anything.
Still can be hit with a civil suite or civil rights violations even without that.
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Old 04-07-2012, 06:16 AM   #2394
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I heard on cnn on thursday that the state attorney will most likely make a decision in no later than 5-6 days .. so I guess we'll know by tuesday/wednesday possibly
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Old 04-10-2012, 06:05 PM   #2395
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Anybody else see this story on George Zimmerman's Lawyers? They apparently have drop him as client because they cant get in contact with him..

his own (former) lawyers are painting a bad picture of this guy. He's starting to sound like a flight risk.
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Old 04-10-2012, 07:33 PM   #2396
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Anybody else see this story on George Zimmerman's Lawyers? They apparently have drop him as client because they cant get in contact with him..

his own (former) lawyers are painting a bad picture of this guy. He's starting to sound like a flight risk.
I work in the courts, co I pretty much know what that means when the attorneys can't get in touch with the clients.
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:57 PM   #2397
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http://content.usatoday.com/communit...s#.T4T-zNld3MQ


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The special prosecutor, Florida State Attorney Angela Corey, has alerted the media that she "is preparing to release new information" about her investigation within the next 72 hours. Reporters will be alerted three hours before the news conference, which is to be held in either Sanford or Jacksonville.
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Corey's office says in its news release that media access will be limited "because of safety concerns."

no reason for there to be 'safety concerns' if she was about to announce he's being charged .. then again it says 'release new information' .. maybe she hasn't made a decision yet ?
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Old 04-10-2012, 11:59 PM   #2398
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Anybody else see this story on George Zimmerman's Lawyers? They apparently have drop him as client because they cant get in contact with him..

his own (former) lawyers are painting a bad picture of this guy. He's starting to sound like a flight risk.

That's what I would do. Get out of the country for good. He can go wherever he wants, he hasn't been charged with anything.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:31 AM   #2399
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That's what I would do. Get out of the country for good. He can go wherever he wants, he hasn't been charged with anything.

He certainly will be if he runs. The smart thing for him to do is to get some good lawyers [with the notoriety I bet he could get a good one pro bono] and let it play out. With how murky it all is [and it's Florida for all you Farkers], he has a good chance of beating any serious charges.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:33 AM   #2400
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I work in the courts, co I pretty much know what that means when the attorneys can't get in touch with the clients.
Can you elaborate?
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