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Old 09-23-2012, 12:58 PM   #16
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Why is it that sexual content in video games is more reviled than murder or other crimes? I've always thought it was funny how it's perfectly acceptable to ruthlessly murder people in all kinds of ways in video games but as soon as there is a nip slip or some kind of intercourse shown it's automatically too mature. (see GTA San Andreas)

Why is it that graphic murder is trivialized while explicit sex (or even softcore) is taboo in video games?

It's almost never done well. A god example of poor execution is DNF. That was a bad game, dressed up with sex, profanity and violence, pretending to be a satirical look at the gaming industry. It ended up being, a lazy, grotesque, heavy-handed mess of all the offensive shit someone could dream up.

I don't have a problem with sexing up characters (DOA) or banging hookers (GTA) as long as it isn't the driving mechanic in a game. Do you really see yourself having fun playing a QTE to direct your character through intercourse?
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Old 09-23-2012, 01:47 PM   #17
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It's almost never done well. A god example of poor execution is DNF. That was a bad game, dressed up with sex, profanity and violence, pretending to be a satirical look at the gaming industry. It ended up being, a lazy, grotesque, heavy-handed mess of all the offensive shit someone could dream up.

I don't have a problem with sexing up characters (DOA) or banging hookers (GTA) as long as it isn't the driving mechanic in a game. Do you really see yourself having fun playing a QTE to direct your character through intercourse?

There are lots of games with over the top gore as the selling point as well that have no true artistic motives other than the sake of giving people enjoyment from disemboweling an enemy. Only difference is one is done with guns, swords, fists and powers while the other is done with breasts and genitals.

But I'm not talking about a porno game or something where sex is the main focus. I mean something like Mass Effect that has some scenes of love making. It looks pretty silly to see two people supposedly having sex while being fully clothed during and after the sequence.
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Old 09-23-2012, 02:46 PM   #18
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There are lots of games with over the top gore as the selling point as well that have no true artistic motives other than the sake of giving people enjoyment from disemboweling an enemy. Only difference is one is done with guns, swords, fists and powers while the other is done with breasts and genitals.

That isn't the only difference, and you know it. War and conflict are central themes in video games, romance is somewhere on the periphery.


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But I'm not talking about a porno game or something where sex is the main focus. I mean something like Mass Effect that has some scenes of love making. It looks pretty silly to see two people supposedly having sex while being fully clothed during and after the sequence.

In many instances mods are the solution to your problem. I agree with your position on Mass Effect, it was a stupid/silly compromise. As an aside, a good chunk of the story driven games I've played are based on a teenage protagonist; I just don't care to see a deeper, more graphic, sexual experience in there.
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Old 09-24-2012, 07:15 AM   #19
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That isn't the only difference, and you know it. War and conflict are central themes in video games, romance is somewhere on the periphery.

But sex is just as a part of human nature as violence is. When did we as a society (I'm speaking as an American here) reach the point where killing someone with a sword/gun/fists became more natural than a woman idling while topless?

Think of it this way, in the year 2012, if 2 video games were released: 1 with insane over the top violence that didn't necessarily pertain to a specific theme such as war ; 1 where there is a softcore scene or two of two people making love while being totally naked, which would be the bigger controversy?
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And thanks to the prudeness of American media we will never have a satisfactory explanation for why an asari would have a ******.
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There are a few things that come to mind. Mass Effect I've never played, but I've heard enough about that part of it to know it was a defining trait.

I also know about the highly offensive Atari Cowboy and Indian game from a million years ago that always comes up in these conversations, which is rediculous for a number of reasons. Not least of which that it's terrible. But also because it's notion is basically a rape game.

Obviously GTA's history I'm well aware of, and I feel like it plays well in the context of the game. There's an element of satire to it. It's functional in the game without being too pervasive into the gameplay.

More recently, stuff I've had direct experience with. Sabotuer was a GTA knock off with an interesting twist. You're in WWII paris, the gimmick is that regions that are Nazi occupied are in black and white, and they turn to color as you free them. It wasn't a great game. The driving mechanic was awfull. The mission design hit or miss. Some good ideas that just didn't finish up. But one element was a series of burlesque houses that you used as save spots. By hitting select you could go from topless, to star pasties. I'm still not sure why the actual seeing of it is such a big deal. Either way you're still in a burlesque house, and it's not as if covering them in Pasties is any less titillating. It's that sort of logic I don't get more than the addition or ommission of this stuff.

The other one is from Heavy Rain. If you haven't played it, it's a bizarre experience. Sort of a series of QTE that unfold the game into something of a choose your own adventure. It's a dark story about a father losing his kid to a kidnapper and tracking him down. There is a girl who agrees to help you, and if you play everything out a certain way, you can sleep with her. It fits, it makes sense, and it's done pretty well. My only issue with it is that it feels too much like a reward. As if if you play well enough, you get to nail the chick. As with most of that game, I'm not sure how I feel about it. I don't even remember if it really happened, or I made it up as a joke, but it's almost like there's even a QT game to get her bra off. And there's a sequence where if you play it a certain way, you have to cut a finger off, and if you do that, it makes it harder to get the bra off ... I think I made that up, but I'm not positive. It's a strange experience. But she was a great character, and I know that I wanted to play it out where I got her, which seems weird.
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And thanks to the prudeness of American media we will never have a satisfactory explanation for why an asari would have a ******.

I've always wondered this as well. The way in which they reproduce would make a vagina seem moot. Maybe it's a vestigial organ?
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