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Old 12-23-2012, 04:52 PM   #16
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I went to the gym, please be patient. I'd put Schaub and Johnson over them, Manning and Cruz, Brady and Welker, Ryan and White, maybe a few others. I realize that Johnson is #1 by a wide margin over any other receiver but we're supposed to be evaluating duos here, which should mean this is about more than the receiver's stats. Stafford isn't a Sanchez-bad QB but we're looking at 17 TDs to 16 interceptions. The team is 4-11. Not Johnson's fault at all but Stafford with his interceptions gets a healthy share of the blame for that. If you have the best QB/receceiver duo you shouldn't have such a terrible record.
Schaub and Andre have a weak case. . Stafford is the better qb and Calvin the better wide out.

Brady and Welker not this year.. Not even close. Brady spreads the ball around way too much and Welker didn't even have great production.

Cruz and Eli have no case.. Cruz is so behind Calvin its not funny and Eli hasn't even put up better numbers than Stafford although he's been much more clutch. Still Cruz and Eli are not at that level as a tandem this year.

Julio and Ryan or Roddy and Ryan are the only ones with a strong case and since these two of them with dominant production and a great qb its not a tandem. It's a trio.

Calvin and Stafford are the best 1-2 qb wr punch in the league.. I might throw romo-Dez in there since he's absolutely exploded the last half of the season.
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Old 12-23-2012, 04:56 PM   #17
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I don't think anyone can look at straight record and say calvin-Stafford aren't the most dominant tandem cuz of it. Football is won on all fronts and Detroit defense and running game suck balls. They are literally a one qb and one wr team carrying dead weight.
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Default Re: Calling for the next Barry Sanders: Stafford and Megatron desperately seek you.

Brady is far better than Stafford, but Johnson is far better than Welker

Why Romo/Bryant? Romo hasn't been that much better than Stafford while Johnson is comfortably above Bryant

Manning is well above Stafford and Thomas has also been playing well. Manning could be MVP, so I'd take them over Stafford/Johnson

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I don't think anyone can look at straight record and say calvin-Stafford aren't the most dominant tandem cuz of it. Football is won on all fronts and Detroit defense and running game suck balls. They are literally a one qb and one wr team carrying dead weight.

The Lions have a better running game and better defense (12th opposed to their 23rd ranked defense last year) this season
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:29 PM   #20
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The Lions have a better running game and better defense (12th opposed to their 23rd ranked defense last year) this season
Then they really must've sucked last year because their run game is in complete shambles this year.. They have been cycling through backs never finding a consistent one. Their d is still not that good.. They get few takeaways and rank 28th in points allowed per game at 28. Not too good.

Drz and romo have been on a tear for two months.. Just thought I'd mention them. Dez has more than double the TDs of calvin and he scored his first touchdown 6weeks into the season to give some perspective.
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Rodgers/ jordy and Eli/ cruz
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The Lions were 29th in rushing last year with their leading rusher having just 390 yards.
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Manning Thomas is up there but Manning is another one that spreads the ball around.. Decker is nearly at Thomas' numbers.

That's why I feel Dez, romo and Calvin, Stafford are the two best tandems. The gap between the number one and number two receivers is huge in both their cases where as th other combos listed are just the best qbs in the league and their no 1 receiver.. Disregarding the fact that their offenses are much more equal opportunity based and not centered around a one two punch.
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The Lions were 29th in rushing last year with their leading rusher having just 390 yards.
Your argument makes no sense.. Their best rusher this year has 695. Because they sucked last year really really bad it means they can't suck this year at all? Their rushing game has been ass all along. 20 extra yards over 8 games isn't going to make or break games.
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Default Re: Calling for the next Barry Sanders: Stafford and Megatron desperately seek you.

How does it make no sense? I'm not the one blaming it on the running game and defense. Both areas weren't that good last year either, and yet they had a much better record. Stafford has been much worse.
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