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Old 10-26-2013, 12:23 PM   #16
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lol, just because I say the team should keep it's name I'm the "resident racist".. Get real

I also know about the crimes the Europeans committed against the Native Americans so you don't need to lecture me on the subject(referring to Mavs post)...

Why aren't the KC Chiefs, Cleveland Indians and other sports franchises under the hot seat for their name?

Why aren't teams that use certain animals as their name/mascott get a free pass?

The Chiefs are totally an ok name. It is a rank/title/position among native tribes. I think it actually pays tribute to native americans. The equivalent to a chief in the european context is a lord.

The indians are a name born of ignorance, but not malice. The orgins of the why we call native american's indians is because:

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Europeans at the time of Christopher Columbus's voyage often referred to all of South and East Asia as "India" or "the Indias/Indies," sometimes dividing the area into "Greater India," "Middle India," and "Lesser India."[1] The oldest surviving terrestrial globe, by Martin Behaim in 1492 (before Columbus' voyage), labels the entire Asian subcontinent region as "India".[2]
Columbus carried a passport in Latin from the Spanish monarchs that dispatched him ad partes Indie[3] ("toward the regions of India") on their behalf. When he landed in the Antilles, Columbus referred to the resident peoples he encountered there as "Indians" in the mistaken belief that he had reached the Indian Ocean.[4] Although Columbus' mistake was soon recognized, the name stuck; for centuries the native people of the Americas were collectively called "Indians." This misnomer was perpetuated in place naming; the islands of the Caribbean were named, and are still known as, the West Indies.

Redskins is much worse because redskins was a well known slur.

Eg. "Damned redskins need to be scalped"
"lets kill some redskins and redcoats (british troops)"
"Push the redskins off this land and we can take the resources"
"kill the bufflo, starve the redskin"

Edit: the difference between a name like the blackhawks, the chiefs, or the seminoles and a name like the redskins, is the same as the difference between the ninjas, or the samurais or the shoguns and the japs or the slant eyes.

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Old 10-26-2013, 06:12 PM   #17
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Funny thing is only annoying white liberals are butthurt by the team name. Actual native americans don't give a shit. Good thing Snyder isn't budging
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Old 10-26-2013, 06:18 PM   #18
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Funny thing is only annoying white liberals are butthurt by the team name. Actual native americans don't give a shit. Good thing Snyder isn't budging
Some Indians don't care. But a lot of them do.
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Old 10-26-2013, 09:24 PM   #19
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Funny thing is only annoying white liberals are butthurt by the team name. Actual native americans don't give a shit. Good thing Snyder isn't budging

lol, thought the same thing. I probably would have been called a racist though
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Old 10-27-2013, 10:24 AM   #20
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Funny thing is only annoying white liberals are butthurt by the team name. Actual native americans don't give a shit. Good thing Snyder isn't budging

You sound like Rick Reilly
"Native Americans dont care, my native american father in law who is a leader thinks they should keep the redskin name.

Than his father in law:

"I am not an uncle tom, redskins is a slur, I want to be clear that I want them to change the name".
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Let me be clear: The racial slur “redskins” is not okay with me. It’s never going to be okay with me. It’s inappropriate, damaging and racist.
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-rick reilly's father in law.

There are a ton of native american tribes and individuals that have complained publicly and formally about the fact that an NFL team uses what they consider (and was historically) a slur against their demographic group. There of a ton of native american groups that have petitioned the NFL and the washington redskins to ban the redskin name. They have spent money on lawyers and other fees to prepare their petitions. Seems they care.

Edit: you like rick reilly actually mean: "redskins doesnt offend me so it is not offensive".

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rumor has it he already is evaluating other names. Publicly of course he needs to hide that, as his rabid fan base will crucify him. He needs to make it look like Goodell forced the name change on him and he had no choice.

he needs to pacify his base.
"that bastard goodell and the NFL forced me to change the name. I wanted to keep the redskin name, dont blame me"

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lol, thought the same thing. I probably would have been called a racist though
It doesn't make you a racist to believe that. Just ignorant of the formal position of many native american tribes and people.

http://thinkprogress.org/sports/2013...n-group-fight/

Just FYI, but southern white leaders found tons of black americans that they got one way or another to publicly state their support for segregation back in the day. So a few individuals that the billion dollar franchise that is the redskins found parade around in support of their name isnt surprising.

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Old 10-27-2013, 10:28 AM   #21
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- San Antonio Spics
- New Orleans Niggers
- New York Kikes
- San Francisco Chinks

None of those are even close to being acceptable. Native Americans have been abused time and time again for hundreds of years, but fuck them, it's only a football team!

I hate how overly PC this country has become as well, but using the name "Redskin" as a sports mascot is absurdly racist and insulting, and should be changed.
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Old 10-27-2013, 07:04 PM   #22
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Just change it to the 'Skins'. Easy fix.
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Just change it to the 'Skins'. Easy fix.

People will argue that Skins is still racist because it implies "redskin."
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:33 PM   #24
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It would be strange, but alot of changes happen in sports these days, and things get left behind, that I'm sure people would get used to it in a short matter of time.
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People will argue that Skins is still racist because it implies "redskin."

Well, you won't have that problem if you alter the logo. It can be a derivation of the word 'pigskin'.

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Yes he is. The other day he said he's taking a look at it. Goodell said it needs to be looked at. You think they are looking at it to then say no, we are not changing it?
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