Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > NBA Forum

NBA Forum NBA Message Board - NBA Fan Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 02-22-2013, 05:53 AM   #16
knicksman
Good college starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,280
knicksman has a bad reputationknicksman has a bad reputationknicksman has a bad reputation
Default Re: Why do people rank players based on team achievements and not personal achievements?

clearly lebron fanboys have loser and selfish mentality just like oscar robertson.
knicksman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2013, 05:55 AM   #17
Rubio2Gasol
College star
 
Rubio2Gasol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 3,936
Rubio2Gasol has decent reputation
Default Re: Why do people rank players based on team achievements and not personal achievements?

I watch players - watch how they influence the game and what they can do and judge them. All accolades personal or team come afterwards.











Stats down here.
Rubio2Gasol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2013, 12:09 PM   #18
kenny817
Good High School Starter
 
kenny817's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 936
kenny817 is popular on this boardkenny817 is popular on this boardkenny817 is popular on this boardkenny817 is popular on this board
Default Re: Why do people rank players based on team achievements and not personal achievements?

Quote:
Originally Posted by I<3NBA
no. there'd been a lot of times when the MVP wasn't the best team in the league

/stupid question

and the answer to OP's question is because those ppl are stupid.

yes. WILT is the GOAT.


Best team =/= best record
kenny817 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2013, 12:17 PM   #19
longtime lurker
NBA sixth man of the year
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 7,810
longtime lurker has a near all-star reputation herelongtime lurker has a near all-star reputation herelongtime lurker has a near all-star reputation herelongtime lurker has a near all-star reputation herelongtime lurker has a near all-star reputation herelongtime lurker has a near all-star reputation here
Default Re: Why do people rank players based on team achievements and not personal achievements?

Yes because stats always tell the whole story riiiight.
longtime lurker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2013, 12:18 PM   #20
BrickingStar
Banned
 
BrickingStar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2,214
BrickingStar is popular on this boardBrickingStar is popular on this boardBrickingStar is popular on this boardBrickingStar is popular on this board
Default Re: Why do people rank players based on team achievements and not personal achievements?

Quote:
Originally Posted by bdreason
"you play, to win, the game"



^^^
That's not mine.
The quote would be more meaningful if the guy who said it wasn't a complete retard and opposite of a winner
BrickingStar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-22-2013, 01:18 PM   #21
Pointguard
NBA sixth man of the year
 
Pointguard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: New York City
Posts: 7,025
Pointguard is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterPointguard is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterPointguard is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterPointguard is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterPointguard is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterPointguard is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterPointguard is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterPointguard is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterPointguard is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterPointguard is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterPointguard is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Why do people rank players based on team achievements and not personal achievements?

I think a lot of people use it as a cop out because they aren't sophisticated enough to compare them one on one. Karl Malone thinks he's the best PF ever but says rings determine who is the greatest. I just think he's a combination of stupid and lazy. Rodman wasn't his equal, but to hear him tell it Rodman was greater. Tony Parker is the best player on SA but is he really the best point guard out there? In baseball people know Jeter isn't better than Pujols but in Basketball its a different standard. Gretsky wasn't the guy with the most rings during his tenure... But basketball its different.

Dwight Howard can win three rings and he's better than Hakeem - add another two and he's better than Shaq. Chris Paul has to win this year or he almost has no chance of being better than Tony Parker. It gets stupid after awhile. This winning as best player was something that used to be reserved only for One on One sports where it does make sense. But the second you start adding players, it loses validity. 10 players and 10 roles it's no longer a way say winning is the ultimate criteria in judging an individuals impact. If you have no analytical skills it works.
Pointguard is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:37 AM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site













Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy