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Old 01-06-2012, 11:40 PM   #16
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How do they grade centers?

If their formula is like, rushing yards per attempt when the runner goes his way....that's pretty dumb.
Who said anything about rushing yards when the runner goes there way?

Also Id like to add that Davin Joseph graded out as one of the worst guards in all of football this year.

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Old 01-07-2012, 12:12 AM   #17
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Nobody said it. I was just saying.

What is their formula?
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Old 01-07-2012, 12:24 AM   #18
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Is this it?

((Sacks + (0.75 * Hits) + (0.75 * Hurries)) / Pass Pro Snaps) * 100

That's all that use to determine who the best was?

This reeks of advance stats that basketball has. At the end of the day these are only guidelines, not proof. Offensive lineman can give up hits or hurries even by doing their job. If you have a quarterback holding onto the ball because nobody is open, but you end up giving up a hit as result of not being able to pass block someone for 5+ seconds or more....that's not really a mark against you, IMO. In that case the lineman did his job.

Obviously not all are like this, but when context is taken out of a play and defined with formulas such as this one, it doesn't really matter.

If Justin Hartwig was such a fine player the last three years, the "number 1 graded center in the league from 2008-2010" like the site says he is, there's no reason he would've been cut from a team at the time sporting one of the worst OL's in the league, especially when he could have been retained for a decent price.

Just saying. Let's not pretend this formula has the final say.
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Old 01-07-2012, 01:56 AM   #19
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Wait, how did Steve Smith not make the cut?
Because all the WR's who made it had better seasons?
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Old 01-07-2012, 03:57 AM   #20
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Joe Thomas.

This makes his third straight first team All-Pro selection.

So...

Pro Bowl - 5x (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011)
First Team All-Pro - 3x (2009, 2010, 2011)
Second Team All-Pro - 1x (2008)

Best player of the great '07 draft.

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Old 01-07-2012, 04:13 AM   #21
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Joe Thomas.

This makes his third straight All-Pro selection.

So...

Pro Bowl - 5x (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011)
First Team All-Pro - 3x (2009, 2010, 2011)
Second Team All-Pro - 1x (2008)

Best player in the great '07 draft.


He's an amazing player & a very high character person.

The Browns along with the city of Cleveland are very fortunate to have him.
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I'm glad the voters went Andy Lee over Lechler. I mean both were deserving the numbers are unbelievably close but Lee set the record for net punting yardage. A good amount of that has to do with coverage, but he did it WITH A BLOCKED PUNT ON RECORD!
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