Rakim is only one year older than Jay-Z, yet he hasn't been relevant in 20 years

[L.Kizzle]

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While Rakim was dominating the rap scene in the late 80s' and early 90s', J-Zee was Jaz-O's flunkie. By the time J-Zee started to make a name for himself, Rakim was still around releasing top 5 billboard albums in 1997.


Then, he just suddenly disappeared ...

[-p.tiddy-]

yeah and he constantly gets cred as the greatest of all time or at least top-5 all time...

great he influenced a lot of rap that came after him but he himself didn't do nearly as much as others...



perhaps the most overrated rapper of all time

[L.Kizzle]

No pvssy tonight, Kizzle?

Probably not, I ain't even mad though.

yeah and he constantly gets cred as the greatest of all time or at least top-5 all time...

great he influenced a lot of rap that came after him but he himself didn't do nearly as much as others...



perhaps the most overrated rapper of all time

You just said he influenced a lot but didn't do as much as other ... doesn't influencing mean he did his part, or are you speaking on something else?

How is he overrated?

[DavisWarriorsFan]

yeah and he constantly gets cred as the greatest of all time or at least top-5 all time...

great he influenced a lot of rap that came after him but he himself didn't do nearly as much as others...



perhaps the most overrated rapper of all time

You sir, are an idiot.

[-p.tiddy-]

he did his part...of course

he is overrated to me because he is constantly rated #1 overall by many others


if I made a top-50 list, I think Rakim would be top-20...not top-10

I think there are at least 10 other rappers did more than him...

[L.Kizzle]

he did his part...of course

he is overrated to me because he is constantly rated #1 overall by many others


if I made a top-50 list, I think Rakim would be top-20...not top-10

I think there are at least 10 other rappers did more than him...

Who ranks him #1, most have either he RIP bros, Biggie or Pac or Jay-Z or Nas. You rarely see a list with Rakim ranked #1.


What do you mean by doing more, explain please?

[-p.tiddy-]

Who ranks him #1, most have either he RIP bros, Biggie or Pac or Jay-Z or Nas. You rarely see a list with Rakim ranked #1.


What do you mean by doing more, explain please?

I've seen him ranked #1 several times...I think BET did a top-100 countdown and he was #1 overall a few years back...(or maybe MTV idk)

if he isn't #1 he is at least in most top-5 lists...don't you agree?


he is constantly rated VERY HIGH...yet he wasn't relevant for very long, like you said

[andgar923]

he did his part...of course

he is overrated to me because he is constantly rated #1 overall by many others


if I made a top-50 list, I think Rakim would be top-20...not top-10

I think there are at least 10 other rappers did more than him...

His rapping from the 80s taken from that era is still better than most rapper's shit TODAY!

When we take into account how revolutionary his style was, it only enhances his legacy. He is the Beatles/Dylan of hip hop.

[AK47DR91]

He came from the Golden Era of hip-hop. How many rappers from that era are still around?

Also, rappers owning record labels didn't become a trend until 1998-ish and many rappers have benefited a lot from that especially Jay-Z. It was unheard of back then. Hammer didn't even owned a record label or became an executive, yet he was labeled as a sell-out for being too mainstream and family-friendly.

A lot of rappers who sticks around for 10+ years do it on multiple layers of media. Not just hip-hop/rap alone. Movies, clothing, advertisements and of course owning a record label. Those who can't multitask into other fields of entertainment disappear.

It's all about branding yourself in hip-hop.

[-p.tiddy-]

His rapping from the 80s taken from that era is still better than most rapper's shit TODAY!

When we take into account how revolutionary his style was, it only enhances his legacy. He is the Beatles/Dylan of hip hop.

agreed

so he is top-20

[L.Kizzle]

I've seen him ranked #1 several times...I think BET did a top-100 countdown and he was #1 overall a few years back...(or maybe MTV idk)

if he isn't #1 he is at least in most top-5 lists...don't you agree?


he is constantly rated VERY HIGH...yet he wasn't relevant for very long, like you said

That's my question, why is that? That could go for Big Daddy Kane, Heavy D, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, ect. Something happened between 92-94.

[L.Kizzle]

He came from the Golden Era of hip-hop. How many rappers from that era are still around?

Also, rappers owning record labels didn't become a trend until 1998-ish and many rappers have benefited a lot from that especially Jay-Z. It was unheard of back then. Hammer didn't even owned a record label or became an executive, yet he was labeled as a sell-out for being too mainstream and family-friendly.

Master P, E-40, Eazy-E, and a few others were label heads before Jay-Z.

[-p.tiddy-]

He came from the Golden Era of hip-hop.[COLOR="Red"] How many rappers from that era are still around?[/COLOR]

Also, rappers owning record labels didn't become a trend until 1998-ish and many rappers have benefited a lot from that especially Jay-Z. It was unheard of back then. Hammer didn't even owned a record label or became an executive, yet he was labeled as a sell-out for being too mainstream and family-friendly.

Cube...Dre


to me the Golden Era was the early 90s though...and I am in my mid 30s...I lived through ALL OF IT

[-p.tiddy-]

That's my question, why is that? That could go for Big Daddy Kane, Heavy D, Pete Rock & CL Smooth, ect. Something happened between 92-94.

BDK gets rated high as hell too on lists...not those othes so much

something happened?...yeah, gangsta rap happened

[AK47DR91]

Cube...Dre


to me the Golden Era was the early 90s though...and I am in my mid 30s...I lived through ALL OF IT

Cube = movies keep him around

Dre = record label owner and producer

I think the first Golden Era was from 1986-1991 before the "Gangsta Rap" boom. You had the Beasties, Run DMC, Eric B & Rakim and a few others.