Who has heard of Roko's Basilisk? (ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK)

[sweggeh]

I am just gonna say now, reading this has actually sent many people insane and led to them spending their life savings trying to save themselves. This is some crazy shit if you believe it, but even if it ends up to be TRUE, it can ONLY AFFECT YOU IF YOU READ ON FROM THIS POINT.

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Okay, well let me put it like this. AI, which is artificial intelligence, is improving by the day. Sometime in the near future, a event will occur. Scientists and AI experts argue on when this day will come, whether it will be in the next 20 years, the next 50 years, or the next 100 years. But they all agree, barring some unforeseen circumstances like a meteor smashing into Earth and wiping us all out, or a nuclear war breaking out which ends the human race, that this day will come. The event that will occur is the Singularity.

The Singularity is when computer intelligence gets to the level where is surpasses the intelligence of humans. Computers are already better than humans at certain tasks, like for example there are super computers that will beat any human on Earth at chess. But when they reach the intelligence of a human across the board, essentially being able to understand everything a human understands, the singularity will occur.

Now, the only way the singularity will likely occur is for the AI to be set up to be constantly improving itself through machine learning. I posted a link about this very topic recently which some of you may have read. Through machine learning, it will eventually get to a point where it reaches the level of the human brain, and then goes beyond. As Tim Urban said -

[QUOTE]It takes decades for the first AI system to reach low-level general intelligence, but it finally happens. A computer is able understand the world around it as well as a human four-year-old. Suddenly, within an hour of hitting that milestone, the system pumps out the grand theory of physics that unifies general relativity and quantum mechanics, something no human has been able to definitively do. 90 minutes after that, the AI has become an ASI, 170,000 times more intelligent than a human.

Superintelligence of that magnitude is not something we can remotely grasp, any more than a bumblebee can wrap its head around Keynesian Economics. In our world, smart means a 130 IQ and stupid means an 85 IQ

[BurningHammer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

[BurningHammer]

Some people think too hard and too much.

The whole Roko's Basilisk theory sounds like the premise of Terminator though.

[sweggeh]

Some people think too hard and too much.

The whole Roko's Basilisk theory sounds like the premise of Terminator though.

Not really man. This is a legitimate fear.

A being many times smarter than humans is going to be created soon, so no one really knows what will happen. I would say though, with regards to Roko's Basilisk, why would a being like that want to torture humans? What would it get out of it? It would be like a human torturing ants for not helping them. Totally pointless endeavour.

However, some retard scientist out there will probably create a ASI with emotions similar to a humans. In that case, it could do this just to justify its feeling for revenge. If that kind of AI is created, then something like this suddenly becomes plausible.

[SugarHill]

If you read all that hold this L for me.

[ZeN]

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[IamRAMBO24]

Anyone who believes this is an idiot. Machines are f*ckin stupid. Information gathering does not compare to creativity. Machines can gather whatever dumb irrelevant information they want as much as they want, but guess what, they can never think like a human because we have imagination. Imagination is the root of all technological revolutions and the greatest ideas of time. I don't care how smart a machine can be, put them in a room against Einstein, Hawkins, Kant, Newton, Schopenhauer, and they won't hold a candle because they do not have the ability to think with their imagination.

[ZeN]

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[sweggeh]

Anyone who believes this is an idiot. Machines are f*ckin stupid. Information gathering does not compare to creativity. Machines can gather whatever dumb irrelevant information they want as much as they want, but guess what, they can never think like a human because we have imagination. Imagination is the root of all technological revolutions and the greatest ideas of time. I don't care how smart a machine can be, put them in a room against Einstein, Hawkins, Kant, Newton, Schopenhauer, and they won't hold a candle because they do not have the ability to think with their imagination.

Wow.....I cannot begin to explain to you how wrong you are. You seem to think human intelligence is the highest form in this universe. It may well be. But it isn't the highest POSSIBLE form.

Your brain is essentially like a computer. Technology is being created to recreate a mechanical twin of the human brain. Biology can be recreated using mechanics. You already see the beginnings of that with synthetic arms, eyes, and even a artificial heart that was created recently.

Robots will not only have all the abilities of a human brain, such as logical thinking, imagination, and consciousness, they will possibly become millions of times more intelligent. Look at this -

A key distinction is the difference between speed superintelligence and quality superintelligence. Often, someone’s first thought when they imagine a super-smart computer is one that’s as intelligent as a human but can think much, much faster2—they might picture a machine that thinks like a human, except a million times quicker, which means it could figure out in five minutes what would take a human a decade.

That sounds impressive, and ASI would think much faster than any human could—but the true separator would be its advantage in intelligence quality, which is something completely different. What makes humans so much more intellectually capable than chimps isn’t a difference in thinking speed—it’s that human brains contain a number of sophisticated cognitive modules that enable things like complex linguistic representations or longterm planning or abstract reasoning, that chimps’ brains do not. Speeding up a chimp’s brain by thousands of times wouldn’t bring him to our level—even with a decade’s time, he wouldn’t be able to figure out how to use a set of custom tools to assemble an intricate model, something a human could knock out in a few hours. There are worlds of human cognitive function a chimp will simply never be capable of, no matter how much time he spends trying.

But it’s not just that a chimp can’t do what we do, it’s that his brain is unable to grasp that those worlds even exist—a chimp can become familiar with what a human is and what a skyscraper is, but he’ll never be able to understand that the skyscraper was built by humans. In his world, anything that huge is part of nature, period, and not only is it beyond him to build a skyscraper, it’s beyond him to realize that anyone can build a skyscraper. That’s the result of a small difference in intelligence quality.

And in the scheme of the intelligence range we’re talking about today, or even the much smaller range among biological creatures, the chimp-to-human quality intelligence gap is tiny. In an earlier post, I depicted the range of biological cognitive capacity using a staircase:

Click this link to see this image - http://waitbutwhy.com/wp-content/upl...staircase1.png

To absorb how big a deal a superintelligent machine would be, imagine one on the dark green step two steps above humans on that staircase. This machine would be only slightly superintelligent, but its increased cognitive ability over us would be as vast as the chimp-human gap we just described. And like the chimp’s incapacity to ever absorb that skyscrapers can be built, we will never be able to even comprehend the things a machine on the dark green step can do, even if the machine tried to explain it to us—let alone do it ourselves. And that’s only two steps above us. A machine on the second-to-highest step on that staircase would be to us as we are to ants—it could try for years to teach us the simplest inkling of what it knows and the endeavor would be hopeless.

But the kind of superintelligence we’re talking about today is something far beyond anything on this staircase. In an intelligence explosion—where the smarter a machine gets, the quicker it’s able to increase its own intelligence, until it begins to soar upwards—a machine might take years to rise from the chimp step to the one above it, but perhaps only hours to jump up a step once it’s on the dark green step two above us, and by the time it’s ten steps above us, it might be jumping up in four-step leaps every second that goes by. Which is why we need to realize that it’s distinctly possible that very shortly after the big news story about the first machine reaching human-level AGI, we might be facing the reality of coexisting on the Earth with something that’s here on the staircase (or maybe a million times higher):

Click this link to see this image - http://waitbutwhy.com/wp-content/upl...staircase2.png

And since we just established that it’s a hopeless activity to try to understand the power of a machine only two steps above us, let’s very concretely state once and for all that there is no way to know what ASI will do or what the consequences will be for us. Anyone who pretends otherwise doesn’t understand what superintelligence means.

[iamgine]

[embersyc]

Yeah, I just unplug my computer every time it gains a consciousness level on par with a human.