There's another part to this interview, and he has Kobe among the GOATs. Kobe played in the late 90s and early 2000s, before the rules changed and won 3 titles before handchecking got completely removed, when the defense in the NBA was at it's best and top teams were only allowing 84 ppg on 41% shooting for an entire season average. This is the era where Kobe was able to average 29/6/5 at age 22 in the RS, followed by averaging 29/7/6 in the Playoffs for the championship. He also averaged 30/7/6/2 at age 24 while setting the NBA record with 12 threes in a game, stuff like putting up 9 straight 40+ games, dropping 42 in one half on Jordan etc. No one's doing shit like this under today's soft rules. Kobe's 35 ppg is still the highest average since Jordan's 37 ppg in the 80s.
He didn't win 3 titles. 2 of them were handed to them by the league and the refs due to rigged WCFs, so he won one ring as second option in early 2000s. But I see what you are saying, guys like Harden are product of today's rules and game.
I have always been of the mindset that Jordan is simply too great of a star for LeBron to surmount. I have seen quite a few youngsters mention LeBron as GOAT, but I don't think that is a reasonable view to hold. Jordan was dominating an era with vastly more physical play allowed than any year LeBron played in. As great as LeBron is, he is not greater than Jordan.