What's your criteria for classifying a player as a superstar?

[Nilocon165]

Just saw a post that said Kyrie was a superstar his rookie year, despite only averaging 18.5 ppg and not even getting close to the playoffs.

I think the only superstars in this league are Lebron, Curry, Durant, and Westbrook.

[FatComputerNerd]

Kyrie > Curry

[Annyong!]

Superstar >= Kyrie Irving

He is the bar.

[Bankaii]

The complete package of skills, stats, and impact and most of all the ability to carry an average, and many even subpar, team to the playoffs.

Lebron and KD have proven they can.
Curry/Kawhi haven't proven they can do it yet, but most likely can.
CP3, Westbrook, Anthony Davis, and maybe Paul George can.

That's it. People saying Kyrie is a superstar must think there's 25+ superstars in the league

[swagga]

you add him to a 30 win team and you get a contender. forget the stats they might be deceiving (harden), forget the glamour (kyrie), forget the inconsistencies and cold feet (curry in the finals, immature young kobe) ... you need an exceptionally productive two way/versatile player, who is also a leader and who will take it to the next level in the playoffs and ruthlessly dominate games. only one player in this league that is/was at this level in the last 5 years and that is lebron, love him or hate him.

Curry is a great allstar but he isn't a superstar, he is manufactured and he has huge holes in his game which are hidden by a HOF team. He got exposed badly in the finals. Call me a hater idgaf juniors.

Kwahi is an exceptional defender but his inability to create offense keeps him easily far away from superstar tier.

Superstars:
jordan
shaq
lebron
duncan
peak kobe
magic
bird

durant is a borderline superstar because he is too beta, inconsistent, deferring to an inferior player in westbrook, losing 3-1s and the like. He has superstar talent and is a two way player, so he could reach superstar level, he just need to man the fck up.

[Poetry]

Just saw a post that said Kyrie was a superstar his rookie year, despite only averaging 18.5 ppg and not even getting close to the playoffs.

"Irving, Grant Hill, Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson are the only players in NBA history to average at least 18 points and five assists per game while shooting at least 45 percent from the field in each of their first two NBA seasons."
- ESPN Stats & Information (@ESPNStatsInfo)

That's just one of the reasons ESPN ranked him at #8 as early as 2013.

[BigKAT]

"Irving, Grant Hill, Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson are the only players in NBA history to average at least 18 points and five assists per game while shooting at least 45 percent from the field in each of their first two NBA seasons."
- ESPN Stats & Information (@ESPNStatsInfo)

That's just one of the reasons ESPN ranked him at #8 as early as 2013.

I'ma just put this here,

Shaq and Michael Carter Williams are the first to be named players of the week in their first week in the NBA.

That aside, Kyrie's a beast.
But he's not top 5 in the league.

That's what I consider superstar.

[Young X]

Legitimate MVP candidate.

[34-24 Footwork]

Lebron, Kyrie, Curry, KD, Westbrook, K Leonard, Damian Lillard and Harden are all superstars.

They get PAID max contracts

Expected to produce on a nightly basis by fans and teammates

(Most people listed above are)Capable of going for 50 any night

Endorsements that are rather lucrative and broad outreach outside ofoutside of mainstream NBA


I didn't list Anthony Davis because no one gives a fvck outside of New Orleans.

Hate it or love it, Kyrie is a superstar and his bar has risen for productivity. If he had the ball in his hands more and allowed to play more of a PG role throughout the season, is numbers would be even crazier.

[SamuraiSWISH]

CP3 has carried a team lol ... 2008, 2009, 2011. Curry hasn't proven he can do it yet. His game really needs facilitating by quality teammates. And even then sometimes he struggles.

[Dray n Klay]

The first criteria is that you have to shoot at least 47%+ in the regular season




Only once you hit that mark, then you can start discussing whether that player was a 'superstar' that season.

[TommyGriffin]

How can anyone say Kyrie isn't a superstar after the Finals and Olympics?

[Smoke117]

Lebron, Kyrie, Curry, KD, Westbrook, K Leonard, Damian Lillard and Harden are all superstars.

They get PAID max contracts

Expected to produce on a nightly basis by fans and teammates

(Most people listed above are)Capable of going for 50 any night

Endorsements that are rather lucrative and broad outreach outside ofoutside of mainstream NBA


I didn't list Anthony Davis because no one gives a fvck outside of New Orleans.

Hate it or love it, Kyrie is a superstar and his bar has risen for productivity. If he had the ball in his hands more and allowed to play more of a PG role throughout the season, is numbers would be even crazier.

Kyrie and Lillard are superstars...but CP3 isn't? Do you ever think up something stupid and NOT post it? Feel free to try it out.

CP3 has carried a team lol ... 2008, 2009, 2011. Curry hasn't proven he can do it yet. His game really needs facilitating by quality teammates. And even then sometimes he struggles.

Carried the Clippers in the latter half of this season too and basically eliminated the championship Spurs himself on one leg in 15.

[tpols]

*superstar impact is defined as having a top 3 playoff run for the year in question. Making 1st team all nba (top 5 player) may also be acceptable, but restrictions apply. All star impact, is simply had you made the all star team or 2nd/3rd all nba team and played at that level whilst winning in the playoffs, and role player impact is robert horry level.

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no matter how hard you guys try to dismiss it, kyrie had a superstar run .. he was at the worst a top 3 player spanning the entirety of the 2016 playoffs with durant, westbrook, and curry choking their asses off.

[TheWinningFam]

*superstar impact is defined as having a top 3 playoff run for the year in question. Making 1st team all nba (top 5 player) may also be acceptable, but restrictions apply. All star impact, is simply had you made the all star team or 2nd/3rd all nba team and played at that level whilst winning in the playoffs, and role player impact is robert horry level.

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no matter how hard you guys try to dismiss it, kyrie had a superstar run .. he was at the worst a top 3 player spanning the entirety of the 2016 playoffs with durant, westbrook, and curry choking their asses off.

kyrie having a superstar run does not make him a superstar is what they are saying, if he keeps up this level of play but stop trying to make it out like he is to fit your agenda