Allen Iverson or Scottie Pippen, who is considered better?

[~LA's fine$t~]

Allen Iverson has averaged 55.8% shooting in his 50+ point games, with only one game of 50+ under 50% shooting (47.2%).

Kobe, by contrast, averages 53.9% shooting on his games of 50+, with 6 games of 50+ coming on sub-50% shooting, 3 games under 45% shooting, and a single game low of 41.5% shooting.

How many 50+ games has Kobe & Iverson had, respectively?

[Loki]

How many 50+ games has Kobe & Iverson had, respectively?

That doesn't matter. Especially since all but one of AI's games of 50+ came before Kobe's tear of 50+ games in 2006. So up to the same point in time (mid-2006 season), Iverson had more games of 50+ on better shooting.

Yet Killer Instinct talks about AI's 43% FG when he scores 50+.

[dynasty1978]

That doesn't matter. Especially since all but one of AI's games of 50+ came before Kobe's tear of 50+ games in 2006. So up to the same point in time (mid-2006 season), Iverson had more games of 50+ on better shooting.

Yet Killer Instinct talks about AI's 43% FG when he scores 50+.

How the hell did this turn into a Kobe vs. AI thread? everyone knows who the more efficient scorer is.

[Loki]

How the hell did this turn into a Kobe vs. AI thread? everyone knows who the more efficient scorer is.

That's not in question. But when a known Kobe fan starts talking nonsense about how AI's 50+ point games are marred by bad shooting, I have to set the record straight.

[ruslan]

How many 50+ games has Kobe & Iverson had, respectively?

kobe has something like 20 and AI has like 15 or something.... why does it matter?

[Inspector Rick]

Anyone who picks AI over Pippen should have their head examined. Iverson is a great player who's had an amazing career, but if you wanna compete for a title, the obvious choice is Pip. Whether your starting your team from the ground up, or playing with a bunch of seasoned vets, the answer is Scottie Pippen every single time. Period.

[ruslan]

Anyone who picks AI over Pippen should have their head examined. Iverson is a great player who's had an amazing career, but if you wanna compete for a title, the obvious choice is Pip. Whether your starting your team from the ground up, or playing with a bunch of seasoned vets, the answer is Scottie Pippen every single time. Period.

[Piercethetruth]

Anyone who picks AI over Pippen should have their head examined. Iverson is a great player who's had an amazing career, but if you wanna compete for a title, the obvious choice is Pip. Whether your starting your team from the ground up, or playing with a bunch of seasoned vets, the answer is Scottie Pippen every single time. Period.

Pippen never even led a team to the finals. Iverson did.

[Inspector Rick]

Great. Iverson took his bad team and beat other bad eastern teams on his way to the finals in the weakest era in the history of basketball.

Its simple, Pippen brings more to the table. Steals, shotblocking, passing, general bball IQ, leadership, point guarding, toughness, man on man defenese, team defense, offensive versatility all while being a very formindable offensive talent in his own right.

You ask any NBA player who they'd rather have on their team everyone of them will say Scottie Pippen. Except maybe Horace Grant, heh.

[ruslan]

Great. Iverson took his bad team and beat other bad eastern teams on his way to the finals in the weakest era in the history of basketball.

Its simple, Pippen brings more to the table. Steals, shotblocking, passing, general bball IQ, leadership, point guarding, toughness, man on man defenese, team defense, offensive versatility all while being a very formindable offensive talent in his own right.

You ask any NBA player who they'd rather have on their team everyone of them will say Scottie Pippen. Except maybe Horace Grant, heh.

lol AI tougher than any player who played this game. AI better stealer also... but alot of those other facts are factor of him being bigger and playing along side MJ. do u really think he would be what he was if he didnt have MJ? and who the **** cares what other players would want. we are talking about overall betterness, not who they want on the team. AI is better player than scottie pippen was. if it wasnt for MJ, scottie wouldnt be where he is today. ur overrating him big time buddy.

[momo]

I wish more posters on ISH had the balls to actually accept their favorite player isn't the GOAT and that ISH is a place to discuss basketball, not to defend their mancrush's honor.
Repped.

Besto post in this thread! Repped.

PS
Wally world > Jordo

[Inspector Rick]

lol AI tougher than any player who played this game. AI better stealer also... but alot of those other facts are factor of him being bigger and playing along side MJ. do u really think he would be what he was if he didnt have MJ? and who the **** cares what other players would want. we are talking about overall betterness, not who they want on the team. AI is better player than scottie pippen was. if it wasnt for MJ, scottie wouldnt be where he is today. ur overrating him big time buddy.

Kudos to Iverson for being as resilient as he is, he's a tough SOB. But you should try watching some clips of the Piston Bad Boys and 90's Knicks. That brand of basketball will redefine your definition of toughness.

Pips size advantage helped him a great deal, but thats just how it is, thus making him a better player. Thats an easy one.

Really, you can make a case for anyone. If player X was a little bit taller, or faster, or stronger, or more athletic. NBA players come in differnet shapes and sizes and they have to make the best of what they got.

All I'm looking at is the end result. Which is why I dont care for the "Oh, Pippen wouldnt be anything if it wasnt for MJ" talk. Of course Jordan played a major role in Pippens growth as a basketball player. Just like how Coach John Thompson helped AI develop his game.

I'm not going to fault a player for the basketball education they recieved, especially when they improve their game with it.

[Orlando Magic]

Allen Iverson.