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Old 10-07-2010, 06:07 PM   #16
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Default Re: Kleiza - How Much Will He Matter?

Where's ppl who laughed at me when i told 2 yrs ago that he would be solid starter in any team.
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Old 10-07-2010, 06:47 PM   #17
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Where's ppl who laughed at me when i told 2 yrs ago that he would be solid starter in any team.

I'm not sure, who were they?
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:33 AM   #18
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Liked the way he handled himself on the court. But it was a Pre season game.

I want to see how he handles himself in the regular season against the likes of LBJ, PP, Melo, KD ect...
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Old 10-08-2010, 03:50 AM   #19
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As long as he has more of an impact than Turk(the guy he's essentially replacing), I'll be cool. And it looks like he will. His performance in one preseason game was more than what Turk gave us all of last year.
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Old 10-08-2010, 10:50 AM   #20
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does anyone think kleiza might be a mike james kind of a year with the raps? with no allstar and no threats besides bargnani on the offensive end, team defenses might just try to stop bargs. we could see kleiza have a career year?

I can see that happening - only difference is we have him locked up for certain - so may be this might be a good thing for us in the long run. Plus he is much younger.
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Old 10-18-2010, 03:20 AM   #21
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23 points today
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:20 AM   #22
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I'm not sure, who were they?
I'm wondering this as well.
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:31 AM   #23
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Individually he might put up great numbers if he gets the minutes. Further his attitude is obviously a big improvement over Turk.

But the question is - How much will he matter?

I would guess 2 wins. Individually he matters 2 wins.

Keliza might be the differnce between sub 20 and more than 20 wins.

With some chemistry and other players - if he (and they) brings it every night I presume the Raptors might win their fair share of no defence 121 - 119 games (for a change i.e. in double overtime - please note the preseason example). That transaltes into the 25+ I am hopeful for (but not willing to bet on).
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Old 10-18-2010, 10:45 AM   #24
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^^ Yeah, I agree. The answer to how much will he matter, is that he will probably give us a few more wins than we would've had before. I'd say maybe 3-5 more wins, max. But, i'm sure that he will put up career numbers going from his last NBA team where he was a 4th or 5th offensive option on most nights to suddenly being a main piece and perhaps even a 1st option on some nights.
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Old 10-18-2010, 11:50 AM   #25
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That transaltes into the 25+ I am hopeful for (but not willing to bet on).


I know I am in the minority on this but it always interests me to find out more. Why are you hopeful for 25+ win instead of say 18 wins and a better shot at the #1 overall pick?
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Old 10-20-2010, 01:14 PM   #26
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I know I diverge from the majority on this board.

I want to see the Raptors win. I want to see them make the playoffs and exit early if that is the case. I want to see the Raptors (wisely) use the 14 MM exception this year.

I want to see the Raptors overspend money on quality support roles and spend over the luxury tax level to bring in 1 or 2 "game changers"

I dont want to see them disband and retool from the bottom up.

I think that a team that is full of competative parts can in fact attract a game changer (CP3, pr a Melo, or slightly lesser stars like a Brandon Roy perhaps) because:

1) The team made the playoffs with quality parts
2) The team is willing to spend what it takes over the longer haul
3) The team has Management and coaching stability

This is what attracts game changers.

Clearly the draft route (Vince, Bosh, Minny Mouse) doesnt work.

This is what Boston did. This is what the Lakers do. This is what the Bulls will do. This is what the Knicks try to do. This is what the top 8 - 10 frnachises do. Toronto is a top 8 - 10 franchise in terms of revenues according to Forbes.

I mean someone will say but the Lakers drafted Kobe...and I will argue not 1st overall.

Its all pie in the sky. I want I want I want...but frankly as a old and long term Raptors fan I want to see the other approach.
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Old 10-20-2010, 02:15 PM   #27
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I mean someone will say but the Lakers drafted Kobe...and I will argue not 1st overall.

Its all pie in the sky. I want I want I want...but frankly as a old and long term Raptors fan I want to see the other approach.

They didn't draft Kobe. They traded Charllotte Vlade Divac for him.
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Old 10-20-2010, 03:16 PM   #28
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They didn't draft Kobe. They traded Charllotte Vlade Divac for him.

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