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Coach
2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
Who do you have in a best of seven? And who do you think will go down as the historically greater team?
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
as a non biased basketball expert I would have to say warriors, warriors, and curry is the best player on the floor
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WayOfWade
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
Originally Posted by warriorfan
as a non biased basketball expert I would have to say warriors, warriors, and curry is the best player on the floor
Give me 2013 LeBron over current Curry, that would be the best player on the court. And as for the series, either Heat in 7 or Warriors in 6. If D-Wade is healthy then that'll be a game changer. Don't get me wrong though this could easily go the Warriors way, by no means is it a landslide. And that's my short opinion, however biased it may be
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Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
last year's championship team got taken to 6 by a depleted cavs team with a worse lebron
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Coach
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
Ranking the best players individually on the floor:
2011 - 2013 LeBron
2011 Wade
2016 Curry
2015 Curry
2012 Wade
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If cops pull up i am
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
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Bad Username
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
I actually think Miami in '12 and '13 would beat them. Probably in less than 7.
They would be their worst nightmare. Successful switching and trapping on every PNR.
But I do think the Warriors are a better team with less flaws and overall more dominant. I think this Warriors team would win against more teams since 1980 than Miami would.
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Local High School Star
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
Big 3 Heat > Warriors. I can see the Heat slowing down the Warriors a lot more than I can see the Warriors slowing down the Heat. Especially if they're all healthy. That 2013 team was crazy dominate at full strength
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... on a leash
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
Ranking the best players individually on the floor:
2011 - 2013 LeBron
2011 Wade
2016 Curry
2015 Curry
2012 Wade
would probably take 2016 Curry over 2011 Wade
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Coach
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
would probably take 2016 Curry over 2011 Wade
I'm not a prisoner of the moment ... I value defense as well.
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... on a leash
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
I'm not a prisoner of the moment ... I value defense as well.
I see GOAT level offense though, too.
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Coach
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
I see GOAT level offense though, too.
Wade wasn't far off that caliber while sharing touches with another 27 ppg scorer. So you take:
GOAT caliber offense and pedestrian defense
Over
Great caliber offense and ELITE defense
That's odd.
Wade was the better ball player. And his 2009 peak is better than a month long stretch from current Curry.
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NBA Legend
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
I see GOAT level offense though, too.
Same.
Wade's defense is getting overrated, just look at the impact splits here:
http://www.gotbuckets.com/statistics/rapm/2011-rapm/
Curry is playing at a GOAT caliber level offensively, and his defense (or lack there of) just isn't enough to nullify that impact. Not versus Wade at least.
As for the OP, give me the 2015 Warriors over every Heat team. I actually think Miami is an overrated champion, and a lot of their success was based off fluke play and injuries from other teams.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
If you look at both teams at their best, the Warriors are a more balanced dominant team. On offense the Warriors move the ball better, they shoot better, & they have more individual defenders than Miami, they also rebound better. The numbers don't lie, overall Golden State dominated teams at a higher level than Miami, despite playing in a tougher conference.
Miami feasted on teams that didn't move the ball well like Indiana and OKC, but struggled vs a team that shared the ball very well like Dallas and San Antonio. People talk shit about Golden State saying it took them 6 games to beat a depleted Cleveland team, but what about Miami needing 7 games to finish off an Indiana team that were offensively weak? Or how they needed 7 games to finish off an ancient Boston team?
Another thing to consider is.... yes the Miami Big 2 in LeBron and Wade are better than Curry & Thompson, but Golden State's supporting cast kills Miami's supporting cast. Bosh was very inconsistent in Miami, he didn't really fit on that team, Draymond Green is a very versatile player who did all the dirty work and brought energy, he would get the best out of Bosh in a series. Bogut was a DPOY candidate and a very good rim protector, Miami didn't have a center like him. Iggy off the bench is a better player than aging Ray Allen. Barnes and Chalmers who were each team's worst starters, who are you taking? Barnes of course. Look at both teams up and down, there is no doubt the Warriors are more versatile and have a deeper bench.
Golden State takes it in 6 or 7.
Last edited by 1987_Lakers; 11-27-2015 at 03:46 PM.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: 2011 - 2013 Heat or 2015 - 2016 Warriors
Originally Posted by SamuraiSWISH
I'm not a prisoner of the moment ... I value defense as well.
Not sure why your are bringing up 2011 Wade considering Miami didn't even win a title that year. 2015 Curry shits on 2012 & 2013 Wade, not even close.
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