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    (CNN) -- Scientists at the Large Hadron Collider managed to make two proton beams collide at high energy Tuesday, marking a "new territory" in physics, according to CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.

    The $10 billion research tool has been accelerating the beams since November in the LHC's 17-mile tunnel on the border of Switzerland and France.
    The beams have routinely been circulating at 3.5 TeV, or teraelectron volts, the highest energy achieved at the LHC so far, according to CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research.

    The first two attempts Tuesday failed, said Steve Myers, CERN's director for accelerators. He said the beams were lost before they reached their full energy.

    Experiments at the LHC may help answer fundamental questions such as why Albert Einstein's theory of relativity -- which describes the world on a large scale -- doesn't jibe with quantum mechanics, which deals with matter far too small to see.

    The collider may help scientists discover new properties of nature. The as-yet theoretical Higgs boson, also called "the God particle" in popular parlance, could emerge within two or three years, Myers said in November.

    http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/science...ex.html?hpt=T2
    Now, I'm no physicist so please correct me if I am wrong but... it seems we may finally know CONCLUSIVELY, PRECISELY, how the Universe was formed and be able to recreate the conditions. In addition, we may be able to test and prove other theories that we were unable to in the past (relativity, time/space, etc). If that's true, is this greatest scientific achievement in human history?

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    Unreal.

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    Not to be an ass, but this is really old. 4-5th thread on that Hadron Collider. On a side note, ISH now has It's first Hardon Appreciator, Juggernaut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pete's montreux
    Not to be an ass, but this is really old. 4-5th thread on that Hadron Collider. On a side note, ISH now has It's first Hardon Appreciator, Juggernaut.
    Yeah, but they finally had a successful experiment. Before they had issues with hydrogen leaks that shut the project down for a year, then they had a bird drop a piece of bread into the machine that stalled everything

    But it seems that we just had that 'EUREKA!' moment...

    From the Christian Science Monitor, which I find ironic, but w.e.

    Scientists have opened what promises to be a new window on the universe, and on the matter and energy it contains, with Tuesday's record-breaking particle collisions at the European Organization for Nuclear Research in Geneva.

    At 7:06 a.m. EDT, detectors at the lab's Large Hadron Collider (LHC) recorded the accelerator's first proton-on-proton collisions at energy levels roughly 3.5 times higher than those in previous experiments.


    The event marks the beginning of what researchers expect to be a historic 18- to 24-month science run. After that, scientists will attempt to drive the accelerator closer to its full design energy of 14 trillion electron volts. That energy level corresponds to energies present when the universe was only one ten-billionth of a second old.

    Hopes are high that the new proton-smashing tool can lead to breakthroughs in scientists' understanding of basic physics.

    "The last revolution in physics happened about 100 years ago, at the end of the 19th century," explains Jurgen Schukraft, a physicist and spokesman for an experiment dubbed ALICE, one of four major experiments along the underground accelerator's 27-kilometer (17-mile) circumference.

    Scientists had a standard model of how the world worked, "but there was some data that did not fit," he says. The outcome of attempts to resolve the problems: general relativity and quantum mechanics, two pillars of modern science.

    Today "we are in a similar situation. We have a standard model, which explains most things, but there are a few oddities. Where does mass come from? How many dimensions are there in the universe? What is dark matter?"

    With the LHC beginning its first science run, "we could very well be at the verge of a revolution similar to the one 100 years ago, which completely changed our world view."

    http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/201...mashes-protons
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    Default Re: Physics Breakthrough: Recreating the Big Bang

    So what new innovations could come out of LHC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waking_Life
    So what new innovations could come out of LHC?
    Quantum Gravity theory or Theory of Everything. Basically, it can unify Einstein's GR and Quantum Physics (which ironically, Einstein helped start with photo electric effect). Einstein would jizz in his pants with this machine, no lies. His work that begun over a century ago, may be proven/dis-proven, modified, etc with the findings of this machine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waking_Life
    So what new innovations could come out of LHC?
    From what I gather, we'll be able to fill in the gaps of many physics theories such as the big bang/higs boson 'God Particle', theory of relativity, anti-matter/dark matter, space/time, the possible discovery of new dimensions, and probably open up a pandora's box of further scientific research.

    And then maybe we can finally have those hover cars promised to us by the Jetsons

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonDadda59
    From what I gather, we'll be able to fill in the gaps of many physics theories such as the big bang/higs boson 'God Particle', theory of relativity, anti-matter/dark matter, space/time, the possible discovery of new dimensions, and probably open up a pandora's box of further scientific research.

    And then maybe we can finally have those hover cars promised to us by the Jetsons
    this too. we should all be very excited because this new research will benefit us all. although even with the discovery of higgs or the unification of GR and QM, there will not be any "Complete Guide to Physics" book, rather, it will make way for a new foundation for which Physicist can go by.

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    i cant grasp physics

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    I hear people on the internet ask all the time..."what's the point of this?" "are there any practical applications?"

    It's awesome, unbridled research like this that gave you the network of computers you're connected to right now in order to read this message.

    Boomdeyada!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Take Your Lumps
    I hear people on the internet ask all the time..."what's the point of this?" "are there any practical applications?"

    It's awesome, unbridled research like this that gave you the network of computers you're connected to right now in order to read this message.

    Boomdeyada!
    Say what? government funded research gave us our most innovative tech?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonball
    Say what? government funded research gave us our most innovative tech?
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonDadda59
    From the Christian Science Monitor, which I find ironic, but w.e.
    You are aware that the Christian Science Monitor isn't actually a religion oriented newspaper despite its originating from the Christian Science movement?

    Just sayin'.

    But, good thread overall. It's good that they're able to do this. This is a huge step forward. With the technological and scientific rate we're going at, the future only looks more exciting.

    We're merely stepping out of a dark age.

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    [QUOTE]A New Clue to Explain Existence
    Physicists at the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory are reporting that they have discovered a new clue that could help unravel one of the biggest mysteries of cosmology: why the universe is composed of matter and not its evil-twin opposite, antimatter. If confirmed, the finding portends fundamental discoveries at the new Large Hadron Collider outside Geneva, as well as a possible explanation for our own existence.
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    In a mathematically perfect universe, we would be less than dead; we would never have existed. According to the basic precepts of Einsteinian relativity and quantum mechanics, equal amounts of matter and antimatter should have been created in the Big Bang and then immediately annihilated each other in a blaze of lethal energy, leaving a big fat goose egg with which to make to make stars, galaxies and us. And yet we exist, and physicists (among others) would dearly like to know why.

    Sifting data from collisions of protons and antiprotons at Fermilab

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    it is only a matter of time...

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