Chamberlain with 21 KNOWN Playoff Triple Doubles

[LAZERUSS]

Ilt is well and truly pathetic. Can't even outscore Pippen in the finals !

This coming from a fan of LeFlop?

Talk about weak competition...



Barea's Bitch.

[LAZERUSS]

Chamberlain with a KNOWN FIVE playoff 30+ point, 20+ rebound, Triple-Doubles; and TEN 20+-20+ Triple-Doubles.

[julizaver]

Chamberlain had a KNOWN 21 playoff Triple-Doubles, 12 of which were 20 point Triple-Doubles, and [COLOR="DarkRed"]7[/COLOR] of those were 30 point Triple Doubles.


Oh, and so far no known data on Wilt's playoff game block totals before his '65 post-season. He may have had a dozen or more playoff games of 10+ blocks, and likely several more 30 point, and 20 point triple-doubles. Maybe even 40 or 50 point triple doubles.

There are at least two more playoff games in my notes prior to 1965 where Wilt alegedly had tripple doubles:

1. 22.03.1962 56 pts 36 rebs 12 blocks 1 asist vs Siracusa in the clinching G5 (after his coach ask Wilt for superhuman perfomance before the game)

2. 16.04.1964 39 pts 30 rebs 12 blocks vs Hawks in G7.


Just looking at your post you miss the 1969 Game 7 where Wilt blocked 10 shots which means another tripple double. And you did not include a game from 1967 Finals where according to his coach Wilt blocked 15 shots.
Off course there are at a lot more games where he had 10+ blocks but we will never know for sure the exact number.

[deja vu]

For a player that "dominant" he can only muster 2 rings.

Inb4 excuses i.e. teammates suck

[Gileraracer]

Chamberlain with 40 known playoff choke jobs

[Psileas]

There are at least two more playoff games in my notes prior to 1965 where Wilt alegedly had tripple doubles:

1. 22.03.1962 56 pts 36 rebs 12 blocks 1 asist vs Siracusa in the clinching G5 (after his coach ask Wilt for superhuman perfomance before the game)

2. 16.04.1964 39 pts 30 rebs 12 blocks vs Hawks in G7.


Just looking at your post you miss the 1969 Game 7 where Wilt blocked 10 shots which means another tripple double. And you did not include a game from 1967 Finals where according to his coach Wilt blocked 15 shots.
Off course there are at a lot more games where he had 10+ blocks but we will never know for sure the exact number.

I knew of the first 2 triple doubles, the first being the highest playoff scoring triple double ever (it's already the 3rd highest playoff scoring game ever), haven't heard that he had 10 blocks in that 1969 Finals game (only game 7 that season). So, that would give him 18/27/10 in a Game 7. What a performer. Too bad only him and West, among the Lakers, were alive during most of that game.

[LAZERUSS]

Chamberlain had a KNOWN 21 playoff Triple-Doubles, 12 of which were 20 point Triple-Doubles, and [COLOR="DarkRed"]7[/COLOR] of those were 30 point Triple Doubles.

Data is from nbastats.net, and Julizaver, who is also a contributor to nbastats.net...both of which basketball-reference.com now uses in their data.

Here we go...

1.... 3/26/65... [COLOR="DarkRed"]30 pts[/COLOR], 15 rebs, 10 asts
2.... 3/31/65... [COLOR="DarkRed"]38 pts[/COLOR], 26 rebs, 10 blks
3.... 4/4/65.... [COLOR="DarkRed"]33 pts[/COLOR], 31 rebs, 11 blks
4.... 4/13/65... [COLOR="DarkRed"]30 pts[/COLOR], 26 rebs, 13 blks
5.... 3/22/67... [COLOR="DarkRed"]37 pts[/COLOR], 27 rebs, 11 asts
6.... 3/24/67... 16 pts, 30 rebs, 19 asts
7.... 3/31/67... 24 pts, 32 rebs, 13 asts, 12 blks (quad-double)
8.... 4/9/67.... 20 pts, 22 rebs, 10 asts
9.... 4/11/67...29 pts, 36 rebs, 13 asts
10... 4/14/67... 16 pts, 33 rebs, 10 asts
11... 4/16/67... 10 pts, 38 rebs, 10 asts, 10 blks (quad-double)
12... 4/20/69... 16 pts, 29 rebs, 16 blks
13... 4/23/69... 15 pts, 23 rebs, 13 blks
14... 4/5/70.... [COLOR="DarkRed"]36 pts[/COLOR], 14 rebs, 10 blks
15... 4/7/70.... 12 pts, 26 rebs, 11 asts, 11 blks (quad-double)
16... 4/9/70.... [COLOR="DarkRed"]30 pts[/COLOR], 27 rebs, 12 blks
17... 4/19/70... 11 pts, 21 rebs, 10 blks
18... 3/30/71... 12 pts, 23 rebs, 10 blks
19... 4/22/72... 20 pts, 24 rebs, 10 blks
20... 5/7/72.... 24 pts, 29 rebs, 10 blks * (CavsFTW with 8)
21... 4/8/73... 11 pts, 30 rebs, 12 blks

Also, there are recaps that give Wilt with a 39 pt, 30 reb, 11 blk game on 4/16/64 (nbastats.net had him with an estimated 12.)

And I did not include any estimated block data, but there were 17 more games that would have given Chamberlain triple-doubles with the estimated blocked shots. As well as an estimated 20 blocks in his 3/24/67 game of 16-30-19.

Oh, and so far no known data on Wilt's playoff game block totals before his '65 post-season. He may have had a dozen or more playoff games of 10+ blocks, and likely several more 30 point, and 20 point triple-doubles. Maybe even 40 or 50 point triple doubles.

Elias could argue that these blocked shot games were not official, but newspaper recaps have credited Chamberlain with known recorded blocks in those games.

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There are at least two more playoff games in my notes prior to 1965 where Wilt alegedly had tripple doubles:

1. 22.03.1962 56 pts 36 rebs 12 blocks 1 asist vs Siracusa in the clinching G5 (after his coach ask Wilt for superhuman perfomance before the game)

2. 16.04.1964 39 pts 30 rebs 12 blocks vs Hawks in G7.


Just looking at your post you miss the 1969 Game 7 where Wilt blocked 10 shots which means another tripple double. And you did not include a game from 1967 Finals where according to his coach Wilt blocked 15 shots.
Off course there are at a lot more games where he had 10+ blocks but we will never know for sure the exact number.

So now we have a KNOWN 24 Playoff Triple Doubles for Chamberlain, 14 of which were 20+ point triple-doubles, and [COLOR="DarkRed"]9[/COLOR] of which were [COLOR="DarkRed"]30+ point [/COLOR]triples...including the HIGHEST SCORING POST-SEASON TRIPLE DOUBLE IN NBA HISTORY at a staggering... [COLOR="DarkRed"]56-35-12[/COLOR].

GOAT.

[LAZERUSS]

I knew of the first 2 triple doubles, the first being the highest playoff scoring triple double ever (it's already the 3rd highest playoff scoring game ever), haven't heard that he had 10 blocks in that 1969 Finals game (only game 7 that season). So, that would give him 18/27/10 in a Game 7. What a performer. Too bad only him and West, among the Lakers, were alive during most of that game.

Chamberlain kicked Russell's ass in that game seven.

18/27/10 on 7-8 from the field (and yes, the highest TS% of anyone in that game at .621.)

Russell... 6 points, on 2-7 from the field (and a .333 TS%), and 21 rebounds.

[LAZERUSS]

There are at least two more playoff games in my notes prior to 1965 where Wilt alegedly had tripple doubles:

1. 22.03.1962 56 pts 36 rebs 12 blocks 1 asist vs Siracusa in the clinching G5 (after his coach ask Wilt for superhuman perfomance before the game)

2. 16.04.1964 39 pts 30 rebs 12 blocks vs Hawks in G7.


Just looking at your post you miss the 1969 Game 7 where Wilt blocked 10 shots which means another tripple double. And you did not include a game from 1967 Finals where according to his coach Wilt blocked 15 shots.
Off course there are at a lot more games where he had 10+ blocks but we will never know for sure the exact number.

As always. Thanks again.

[julizaver]

I knew of the first 2 triple doubles, the first being the highest playoff scoring triple double ever (it's already the 3rd highest playoff scoring game ever), haven't heard that he had 10 blocks in that 1969 Finals game (only game 7 that season). So, that would give him 18/27/10 in a Game 7. What a performer. Too bad only him and West, among the Lakers, were alive during most of that game.

I posted a link of article also in ISH, but not able to find it at the moment. There were some bashing of Wilt there as mentioned his huge salary (250 000 a year), but also mentioned that he played good in defense - something like that. If I found it again the article I will repost it.

[ClipperRevival]

2nd in regular season scoring - 30.1 ppg
34th in playoff scoring - 22.5
43rd in finals scoring - 18.6

They don't call him the "Big Dipper" or "Wilt" for no reason. It fits. And Laz, all those impressive individual stats you put up for him only means he had terrible games to offset those great ones.

[LAZERUSS]

2nd in regular season scoring - 30.1 ppg
34th in playoff scoring - 22.5
43rd in finals scoring - 18.6

They don't call him the "Big Dipper" or "Wilt" for no reason. It fits. And Laz, all those impressive individual stats you put up for him only means he had terrible games to offset those great ones.

A pre-injured Chamberlain up thru his 67-68 season (his prime) averaged 29.3 ppg, 26.3 rpg, 4.8 apg, and shot .520 from the floor (in post-seasons that shot about .435 in that same span) in his 80 playoff games (half of them.) Think about that...basically a 30-27-5 (and likely 7+ bpg)...on FG%'s that weer nearly a full ten percentage points higher than the post-season league averages. AVERAGED a 30-27-5-7! PER GAME.

Now, a post-injury Wilt statistically matched a PEAK Kareem in their '71 post-season H2H, and in fact, recaps had him with a 3-1-1 edge in those five games.

Furthermore, Wilt was outscored by KAJ in their '72 WCF match-up by a 34 ppg to 12 ppg margin...and guess what? TIME Magazine hailed Chamberlain as DECISIVELY OUTPLAYING a 25 year old Kareem in that SERIES. Of course, one of the main reasons being that over the course of the last foru games of that series, Chamberlain held Kareem to a .414 FG%, and then dominated him in the clinching game six win. BTW, in their two series' clinching H2H's, Wilt outshot Kareem from the floor .545 (18-33) to .383 (23-60.)

The REALITY was, Chamberlain DOMINATED even in his lower scoring post-seasons. And, as you would expect, almost all of those occurred after his injury...or 62 of his 160 post-season games.

[ClipperRevival]

You're only confirming what I said above. All those great games were offset by his bad ones. MJ, at the ages of 32-35, 3 peated, won 3 rings, 3 fmvp, 3 regular season mvps and made All-NBA 1st and All-NBA 1st Defense. DSo don't talk about age. For bigs, they age much more gracefully.

Hakeem won his 2 rings when he was 32 and 33. KAJ won FMVP at the age of 37.

Ilt has 2 rings, 1 fmvp. Never led his team in scoring when they won a title. Something was off. Along with Shaq, the league had never seen anyone like him. He was a freak. And he was SUPPOSED to be dominant. Where was he in some playoff series/games when his team needed him most? He lacked that killer instinct inside. He didn't maximize his talents. And I can't accept guys like that. I want guys who did more with less or just guys who maximized their talents versus guys who were blessed with off the charts talents like Ilt and didn't maximize them. He could've done more but he didn't when it mattered most.

[ClipperRevival]

Wilt lost the NCAA championship game. Why? Because he was so good, the team just tried to get him the ball. What did their opponents do? Swarm him and force others to beat them. A great player attracts the attention and sets others guys up, not try to play 1 on 3.

On the flip side, Russell went to a school (University of SF) that hadn't done NOTHING prior to him going there and won 2 NCAA titles. Coincidence? Please. Russell played to win, not put up gaudy individual numbers which might not have been the best for the team.

The same situation stood at the pro level. Wilt was the superior individual talent but Russell was the better winner. In a vacuum, yes, Wilt was superior. He should be. He had 4-5 inches and 50-60 lbs on Russell. And you also factor in the mentality that both brought, Wilt being somewhat aloof and not living bball day and night while Russell tried to get every advantage mentally and physically every time he stepped on the court.

All this stuff matters. It's the little things that separate winners from losers. When you keep on posting individual stats without proper context, it does make me question if you ever played the game while ignoring the mental aspect of the game.

[LAZERUSS]

You're only confirming what I said above. All those great games were offset by his bad ones. MJ, at the ages of 32-35, 3 peated, won 3 rings, 3 fmvp, 3 regular season mvps and made All-NBA 1st and All-NBA 1st Defense. DSo don't talk about age. For bigs, they age much more gracefully.

Hakeem won his 2 rings when he was 32 and 33. KAJ won FMVP at the age of 37.

Ilt has 2 rings, 1 fmvp. Never led his team in scoring when they won a title. Something was off. Along with Shaq, the league had never seen anyone like him. He was a freak. And he was SUPPOSED to be dominant. Where was he in some playoff series/games when his team needed him most? He lacked that killer instinct inside. He didn't maximize his talents. And I can't accept guys like that. I want guys who did more with less or just guys who maximized their talents versus guys who were blessed with off the charts talents like Ilt and didn't maximize them. He could've done more but he didn't when it mattered most.

Chamberlain won a FMVP at age 35. And you are deluding yourself if you don't think Wilt would not have a FMVP in '67 had the award existed (BTW...in a Finals in which Barry averaged 41 ppg.)

Wilt faced RUSSELL... EIGHT TIMES... in his post-season career. And all but one in either round one, or two. BTW, MJ's numbers declined considerably in his four playoff series against the Bad Boys; Shaq's fell off considerably against the Robinson Spurs in his four post-season H2H's,; and Kareem's fell off the cliff in his post-season H2H's against Wilt and Thurmond. Why?

I have posted Wilt's 37 "must win" and "series clinching" games before, and you would be hard-pressed to find 3-4 in which he played poorly. He AVERAGED 29.5 ppg, 26.4 rpg, 4.2 apg, and shot .546 in those 37 games...all while brutalizing his opposing HOF centers. Just KILLED them.

I could go on, but you obviously have done ZERO research on Chamberlain. Why bother?