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Old 03-09-2018, 01:37 PM   #1
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Default Three rules for staying out of poverty

This isn't an exact science, obviously, but for the vast majority of those in America...

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The Brookings Institution has spent a great deal of effort studying this issue.

Brookings whittled down a lot of analysis into three simple rules. You can avoid poverty by:

1. Graduating from high school.

2. Waiting to get married until after 21 and do not have children till after being married.

3. Having a full-time job.

If you do all those three things, your chance of falling into poverty is just 2 percent. Meanwhile, you’ll have a 74 percent chance of being in the middle class.

Statistically, it's that simple.
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Old 03-09-2018, 01:41 PM   #2
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These rules apply to all races and ethnic groups. Breaking these rules is becoming more commonplace, unfortunately, for all racial groups.

By contrast, young adults who violated all three norms - dropped out, got married before 21 and had children out of wedlock and didnít have a full-time job - had a 76 percent chance of winding up in poverty and a 7 percent chance of winding up in the middle class.

How do we legislate stupid people's stupid decisions?

Or do we just continue letting them make stupid decisions and then have our government take care of them for the rest of their lives?
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Old 03-09-2018, 01:45 PM   #3
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Default Re: Three rules for staying out of poverty

#1 is largely dependent on where you're born and raised. People born into poverty have less access to quality education, and are far less likely to graduate high school.

#2 is largely dependent on #1.

#3 is largely dependent on #1.




So the solution is finding ways to properly educate people already born into poverty.
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Old 03-09-2018, 01:50 PM   #4
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#1 is largely dependent on where you're born and raised. People born into poverty have less access to quality education, and are far less likely to graduate high school.

#2 is largely dependent on #1.

#3 is largely dependent on #1.




So the solution is finding ways to properly educate people already born into poverty.

It doesn't say anything about quality... It says graduate. I don't believe the statistical breakdown cared about quality either. To your point, there's no question those with access to higher quality high school institutions have a better chance of succeeding later in life.

But honestly, if you can't graduate high school, you're probably destined for a life a poverty regardless. That's probably the easiest step.

Out of curiousity... why do you have to graduate high school to complete #2? I would think you could be a high school dropout and still not have kids out of wedlock.
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Old 03-09-2018, 02:54 PM   #5
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I'm generalizing, but I think it's a culture issue. No one wants to do well in school for the sake of it anymore, more people value sex less, and less people want to go into specific fields where the money is.
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Old 03-09-2018, 03:01 PM   #6
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these findings dont add anything

"having a full time job" duh?

lets add

"inheriting a 200k vacation home from your white parents" to that list as well.
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Old 03-09-2018, 03:11 PM   #7
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these findings dont add anything

"having a full time job" duh?

lets add

"inheriting a 200k vacation home from your white parents" to that list as well.
Getting a full time job is easy. All three of these are easy, problem is kids lack morals and feel entitled, they're not accountable for their actions.
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Old 03-09-2018, 03:45 PM   #8
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I did very little in high school and still graduated as a c student. I cant fathom how anyone cant finish that shit.
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Old 03-09-2018, 05:21 PM   #9
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Don't be lazy. That's pretty much it.
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Old 03-11-2018, 02:36 PM   #10
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Don't Vote Republican.
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Old 03-11-2018, 04:13 PM   #11
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#1 is largely dependent on where you're born and raised. People born into poverty have less access to quality education, and are far less likely to graduate high school.

#2 is largely dependent on #1.

#3 is largely dependent on #1.




So the solution is finding ways to properly educate people already born into poverty.

Well then, maybe people in poverty shouldn't be having kids when they can't afford them... except we actually provide INCENTIVES for poor people to have more kids

Access to quality education? Access? The library is free. Unless you are referring to children born out of wedlock, then yeah, they have less access to quality education (not referring to the K-12 scam)

OP is correct. It's actually very simple. But $100,000,000,000,000,000 dumped into education's special interest sector still hasn't taught those 3 basic things to stay out of poverty LOL. In the 1-party state of Corruptifornia we have tv ads that always say, "come on guys, we can teach these kids, we just need a little bit more of your money"

Btw, most public schools don't require you to learn anything to graduate or move onto the next grade level. You hardly even have to show up. I went to about 12 different public schools K-12. The main difference between them were the students... just Stanford/Harvard/etc.. learning is a choice. Hell, YouTube has better lectures than some of our expensive public institutions


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Don't Vote Republican.

I have about 20 family members who have taken this advice. They're all on government programs that incentivize them to stay unemployed... why get a job when you can sit around your trailer all day, listen to music, watch tv, and drink beer/smoke weed?
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Old 03-11-2018, 06:31 PM   #12
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Well that didn't help
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Old 03-11-2018, 07:05 PM   #13
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Probably by ignoring all the "experts" really just one moron in the bitcoin thread
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:45 AM   #14
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Also joining the military is an option. I've talked to many people who were smart according to standardized testing but were from shitty areas. It's a great way to secure a paycheck while setting you up with the skills for a middle income job(and free school money.)

As for attempting to correct the systemic effect: It's multifaceted, but I believe increasing the salary of teachers and splitting up class sizes would have the biggest effect. Increase the quality of teachers and better control the classroom environment. A cultural change would definitely help speed up the process. Hold your children accountable for what they do. We should all be accountable in what we do; but is it realistic to expect all parents to exhibit the same behaviors we want in their children? It isn't.

Whatever the cultural change is, I hope it's for the better, but imo, USA needs Jesus.
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Old 03-13-2018, 09:51 AM   #15
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Also joining the military is an option. I've talked to many people who were smart according to standardized testing but were from shitty areas. It's a great way to secure a paycheck while setting you up with the skills for a middle income job(and free school money.)

As for attempting to correct the systemic effect: It's multifaceted, but I believe increasing the salary of teachers and splitting up class sizes would have the biggest effect. Increase the quality of teachers and better control the classroom environment. A cultural change would definitely help speed up the process. Hold your children accountable for what they do. We should all be accountable in what we do; but is it realistic to expect all parents to exhibit the same behaviors we want in their children? It isn't.

Whatever the cultural change is, I hope it's for the better, but imo, USA needs Jesus.

Not an option for most.

Amazingly enough, most kids of military age are either too fat, too stupid, or too defective to join:

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This problem is going to only get worse: The Department of Defense estimates that 71 percent of the roughly 34 million 17- to 24-year-olds in the U.S. today would fail to qualify based on the current enlistment criteria because of physical or mental health issues, low educational scores or major criminal convictions.

Of those who are qualified, many don’t want to join. A recent Washington Post survey found that 60 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds expressed support for using ground troops against ISIL. But 85 percent said they would “probably” or “definitely” not join the military. This is an alarming trend for an Army that relies on volunteers.

You have to be really fat, really stupid, or REALLY defective to not be accepted into the Army.

But here we are...
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