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Old 03-18-2018, 08:14 PM   #1
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Default So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

While Iím generally ok with the death penalty.....

Being killed for giving someone a product they want?

How far as that from selling tobacco or alcohol? Of course the difference is legality....but morally?

A guy can be held responsible for an addicted customers death when he sells some drugs/toxins but not others?

Eh. They have declined so far to go into specifics but any way you do it the court battles over this are gonna be ridiculous...

The first guy they attempt to give death for drugs alone better be a totally irredeemable scumbag.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:15 PM   #2
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

If I sell you a deadly product? yeah

People get murder chargers for shit like that, MJ's doctor was on trial for that shit

But overall for getting caught with a lot of weed or heroin nah
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:21 PM   #3
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

Im fine with it, as long as it's an excessively large amount. A couple bags of blow or crystals isn't killing anybody. A couple bricks? That's potentially ****ing up an entire community, and if they have that much they're clearly not struggling much, whereas Paco from a couple blocks down the road needs to sell a bag of dust to eat.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:24 PM   #4
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

No, that's completely absurd.

People want to take/buy drugs, that's on them.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:27 PM   #5
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

Hell no. Death penalty should be reserved for atrocities. Vicious multiple rapes or murders, torture, etc
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:34 PM   #6
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

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Hell no. Death penalty should be reserved for atrocities. Vicious multiple rapes or murders, torture, etc
True

I take back what I've said, but murder charges should be considered
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:36 PM   #7
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

Part of me wants to say follow the libertarian philosophy... who cares as long as it's not harming others and just myself... all drugs should be legal.

However, that shit aint the truth. The truth is users without question interfere with society and drag it down in multiple ways. And on top of that, they seldom get off it. Like overwhelming vast majority of the time never give the drugs up, depending on the drug.

So... yes, death penalty for drug dealers... and death penalty for drug users. Yeah, it sucks... and it seems heartless, but the cold hard truth of the matter is these people aren't getting clean and they're not going to. The only way to clean society up is to kill the users... and the dealers.

Also depends on the drug... meth? heroin? Kill them all.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:37 PM   #8
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

Who are you arguing with OP? There is no death penalty for obtaining or selling narcotics in the states, just outrageous penalties for it.

China and Philippines there are though
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:40 PM   #9
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

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Who are you arguing with OP? There is no death penalty for obtaining or selling narcotics in the states.

China and Philippines there are though
He means If I sell you some bad heroin and you end up overdosing

Which I just agree they should be looking into murder charges. If I'm knowingly selling fentanyl which causes an easy overdose and selling it as dope I should be charged for it
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:42 PM   #10
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

What if they sell it to minors?

772 teen drug overdose deaths in 2015.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:42 PM   #11
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

In certain parts of Alaska you can be banished from villages for having as little as a burnt spoon and a needle on your persons. The entire USA should look at drugs with this approach.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:45 PM   #12
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

There are plenty of criminals who are obviously too far gone, and whose existence is virtually guaranteed never to contribute positively to society in any way. So I get the human instinct to want someone dead in a situation like that.

I'm just against the death penalty on principle. It's really not a legitimate deterrent, and a pretty recent study showed that we're wrongfully executing people 4% of the time. And that number is likely very low, since these are only instances where clear proof has surfaced that the person was not guilty of the crime they were put to death for. I'm sure plenty of them were scumbags in various other ways, but I don't care. Doing away with the death penalty altogether helps ensure that cases can be revisited if relevant new info comes to light, and most importantly the system doesn't essentially "murder" an innocent 1 in 25 times.

Certainly not for drug dealers, which is a very broad term that can understandably be applied to certain pharmaceutical CEOs just as easily as it can to a "real" drug dealer. But something tells me Trump wasn't referring to them when he referenced this idea in the rally. Just a hunch.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:50 PM   #13
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

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What if they sell it to minors?

772 teen drug overdose deaths in 2015.

What if they OD on shit you can buy at Walmart?

Let's be real here.

This is an attack on the black and brown plain and simple.

Instead of spending hundreds of millions to jail, prosecute and kill drug dealers, we should use that for drug rehab, counselling and other resources to help prevent usage.

Trump is associated with known drug dealers, bet they won't be going anywhere.
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Old 03-18-2018, 08:51 PM   #14
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

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He means If I sell you some bad heroin and you end up overdosing

Which I just agree they should be looking into murder charges. If I'm knowingly selling fentanyl which causes an easy overdose and selling it as dope I should be charged for it

No way for low level drug dealers to determine what their product has already been pre-cut with before they purchased it. Test kits are expensive as hell and they don't determine what other elements are in it. You need to get lab work to find such results

Cocaine purity is already stomped on by 20% before it even reaches the Rio Grande, who knows what else gets sprinkled in when it starts breaking down to consumer sizes

Black tar is made with molasses, shoe polish and cow blood

Opiate users put their life at risk getting stuff off the streets, infact the most opiate deaths have come from pharmaceutical pain killers. Should Pfizer be shut down and CEO beheaded?

The problem is not the dealer, it's the addict and mental health.

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Old 03-18-2018, 08:52 PM   #15
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Default Re: So....death penalty for drug dealers. This ok with you?

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What if they OD on shit you can buy at Walmart?

Let's be real here.

This is an attack on the black and brown plain and simple.

Instead of spending hundreds of millions to jail, prosecute and kill drug dealers, we should use that for drug rehab, counselling and other resources to help prevent usage.

Trump is associated with known drug dealers, bet they won't be going anywhere.
This isn't a racial issue

You threw that in there and nothing else you said supported it even remotely.
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