Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops

Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > NBA Team Forums > Los Angeles Lakers Forum

Los Angeles Lakers Forum Los Angeles Lakers message board - los angeles lakers fan forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-27-2007, 03:33 AM   #1
hotsizzle
Superstar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: WINNING!
Posts: 9,850
hotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation here
Default Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

Quote:
It's time to trade Bryant

The superstar keeps dropping bombs of disappointment, and it's becoming clear that he won't win another title with these Lakers.
May 27, 2007

Can you hear him?

"I'm still frustrated."

Are you listening?

"I'm waiting for them to make some changes."

Do you understand what Kobe Bryant was saying Saturday in an interview with The Times' Mike Bresnahan?

Bryant is still frustrated even though the Lakers have had nearly a month to calm him.

Bryant is still demanding changes even though he knows surgeries to trade-worthy Kwame Brown and Lamar Odom will prevent them from making changes.

Can you hear him?

Kobe Bryant is asking the Lakers to soothe him beyond their ability and trade beyond their resources.

Could it be that he is asking for something else entirely?

Could Kobe Bryant be asking for a trade without asking for a trade?

Sounds like it.

Sounds exactly like it.

Sounds like Bryant heard the expected bad news about Odom, the surprise bad news about Brown, the stunning lottery news that has Greg Oden and Kevin Durant coming to the Western Conference, and he knows.

He knows his chances of winning another championship here during his prime are now officially nearing zero.

He knows that the Lakers' best trade option this summer is now him.

He knows that if he publicly demands a trade, the Lakers would scold him and fans would skewer him.

So he continues to drop little bombs of dissatisfaction like he drops three-point shots, quick and unexpected and chilling.

Bryant clearly stated Saturday that he had not asked for a trade.

But those little bombs have finally backed the Lakers into a corner out of which the only exit is to trade him.

And you know something? It's time. They should do it. It hurts to even write the words. But they should do it.

Bryant is the most entertaining athlete in American sports, a perfect fit for America's entertainment capital.

But Los Angeles is also about winning. And the smart Lakers fans are about winning. And as constituted, the Lakers cannot get past the first round with Bryant, much less win a championship with him.

His high salary keeps them from getting a second superstar needed to win. Poor trades have left the lineup bereft of the top role players needed to win. And with Bryant on the floor, the Lakers will always be barely too good for a lottery draft pick needed to win.

What many fearfully suspected when Jerry Buss handed Bryant the franchise three years ago has been proven true.

Bryant has given Los Angeles fans wonderful moments but, asked to carry an ordinary team, he cannot give them championship moments.

Given his understandable unhappiness, Bryant's most enduring value is now in the players that can be acquired for him.

Bryant began hinting at his unrest during the embarrassing playoff series against Phoenix, when I asked him about his desire to win another championship before age robs his ability.

"We definitely have to get to that elite level, and get to that elite level, like, now," he said then.

After his postseason meeting with Lakers bosses, he spoke again about wanting to be a champion again.

"I don't want to wait any more than I already have," he said.

He drove home from the facility and waited around for good news and what happened? Nothing but bad.

Lamar Odom's shoulder injury was as awful as expected, ending his chances of being an attractive trade commodity this summer.

Kwame Brown's ankle injury is feared to be worse than expected, also probably ending his chances of being traded.

Portland won the draft lottery and franchise center Oden, meaning it could be a playoff team next season.

Seattle won the second choice in the lottery, which it will certainly use on franchise scorer Durant, also changing its fortunes.

Bryant saw all this, knew that the Lakers' immediate future has become even more hopeless, and what did he do?

When Bresnahan contacted him Saturday during a usually calm time in the NBA cycle, Bryant continued to cite his frustration, and continued to ask for change.

Bryant didn't ask for a trade because he is savvy enough to know that such a move would make him a villain again.

Instead, he is seemingly trying to persuade the Lakers to do the one thing they would never, ever do on their own.

General Manager Mitch Kupchak has said hundreds of times that he would never trade Bryant. But if Kupchak thinks he doesn't have a choice?

He could make a deal and hint that Bryant was unhappy, thus relieving himself of the blame. Bryant could — and would — nullify his no-trade clause, thus supporting Kupchak's claim.

The Lakers could acquire another superstar and a couple of top draft picks, rebuild the team like it was once rebuilt with Shaquille O'Neal and Bryant, and everyone would be happy.

Kupchak would not talk about such a scenario. In fact, when contacted by Lakers officials on Saturday, the amiable Kupchak politely refused to do any sort of interview on the subject.

He said he had already answered these questions, and he was right.

The problem is, he has no answers.

About Bryant's frustration, Kupchak earlier said, "We feel exactly the same way."

About his off-season plans, Kupchak said, "We're going to be as aggressive as we've always been."

The answer, of course, would be to never trade Shaquille O'Neal, but Kupchak had no choice. If Bryant indeed feels the way he sounds, Kupchak has no choice again.

Critics will wail that it's all so unfair and unseemly. Critics will say that once again, the Lakers are bowing to the mantra that what Kobe wants, Kobe gets.

Only this time, Kobe is right.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...la-home-sports

Shame on Kobe for asking management to get legitimate help and assuring them that it needs to be done.

Last edited by hotsizzle : 05-27-2007 at 03:40 AM.
hotsizzle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 04:16 AM   #2
OneWay
GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!
 
OneWay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: RANDY ORTON THE NEW WWE CHAMP!
Posts: 1,774
OneWay has an OK reputation so far
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

Some of the most knowledgable posters at clblakers are saying that this is Kobe's way of saying "let me go".
He's passively asking to be traded.
Acccording to them, this is just a beginning.
OneWay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 04:30 AM   #3
hotsizzle
Superstar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: WINNING!
Posts: 9,850
hotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation herehotsizzle has an incredible reputation here
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

Quote:
Originally Posted by OneWay
Some of the most knowledgable posters at clblakers are saying that this is Kobe's way of saying "let me go".
He's passively asking to be traded.
Acccording to them, this is just a beginning.

I don't see it..thats reaching IMO. Whats Kobe supposed to say? That hes calm so organization stops pursuing for help? The man wants to win and all of us agree with him.

Something must be done.
hotsizzle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 09:57 AM   #4
SoCalMike
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
 
SoCalMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Land of 16 NBA Championships
Posts: 23,362
SoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

If you guys were around in the 80's when Magic was upset with Coach Westhead, he did A LOT to influence the Lakers to get rid of him. Players have had influence over team direction for a long time, but I think the media is manipulated moreso now than 20 years ago. That being said, if I were Kobe, i'd be very pissed at the decisions that the Lakers have made.

At the same time, I always wonder why these superstar players insist on making over $20M a year and expect to win rings. It takes a very good management team, a great coach, a whole lotta luck and CASH to put together a championship caliber team. If its all about the cash for each player (with these aggressive agents out there), it makes it that much more difficult to assemble great teams.


SoCalMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 01:02 PM   #5
gts
Sons of Antartica
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 28,643
gts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

gotta love some sports writers...lol
sportswriter A Quotes player
"I don't want to be traded" says the player

Sportswriter B.who is making reference to SportswritersA's article responds with "Player asking for a trade" and writes whole article about how team should trade player before he oficially asks for trade...lol

SportswriterB also neglects to inform us Player has a no trade clause in contract...

two worst writers at the times TJ simers and Bill Plascke
gts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 01:17 PM   #6
MJ(Mean John)
The Fresh Prince
 
MJ(Mean John)'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lakeshow
Posts: 4,430
MJ(Mean John) is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterMJ(Mean John) is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterMJ(Mean John) is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterMJ(Mean John) is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterMJ(Mean John) is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterMJ(Mean John) is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterMJ(Mean John) is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterMJ(Mean John) is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterMJ(Mean John) is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterMJ(Mean John) is considered a brilliant InsideHoops posterMJ(Mean John) is considered a brilliant InsideHoops poster
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

lol...
MJ(Mean John) is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 01:17 PM   #7
spitfire
Can barely lace up my sneakers
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 26
spitfire has an OK reputation so far
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

season is over for lakers. but come'on those writers need to live pay mortgages, buy food, they need money, so they write crap whatever they like.
spitfire is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 02:10 PM   #8
bleedinpurple
Decent college freshman
 
bleedinpurple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NYC & Phoenix
Posts: 1,982
bleedinpurple has an OK reputation so far
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

meaningless article other than to suggest Kobe wants an improved team (duh).
anything else is taking a BIG leap of assumption.
bleedinpurple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 02:42 PM   #9
SoCalMike
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
 
SoCalMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Land of 16 NBA Championships
Posts: 23,362
SoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gts
gotta love some sports writers...lol
sportswriter A Quotes player
"I don't want to be traded" says the player

Sportswriter B.who is making reference to SportswritersA's article responds with "Player asking for a trade" and writes whole article about how team should trade player before he oficially asks for trade...lol

SportswriterB also neglects to inform us Player has a no trade clause in contract...

two worst writers at the times TJ simers and Bill Plascke

Nicely said Speedy!



SoCalMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 02:43 PM   #10
SoCalMike
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
 
SoCalMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Land of 16 NBA Championships
Posts: 23,362
SoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedinpurple
meaningless article other than to suggest Kobe wants an improved team (duh).
anything else is taking a BIG leap of assumption.


Well, you DID say you wanted to hear some stuff... http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42728

You got it! lol



SoCalMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 05:16 PM   #11
bleedinpurple
Decent college freshman
 
bleedinpurple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NYC & Phoenix
Posts: 1,982
bleedinpurple has an OK reputation so far
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SoCalMike
Well, you DID say you wanted to hear some stuff... http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=42728

You got it! lol




ever since I made that request, I've received two pieces of news...
1. Kwame ankle surgery
2. Kobe making noise.

I hereby rescind my request.

bleedinpurple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 05:26 PM   #12
gts
Sons of Antartica
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 28,643
gts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedinpurple
ever since I made that request, I've received two pieces of news...
1. Kwame ankle surgery
2. Kobe making noise.

I hereby rescind my request.

hey you didn't like the dancing barry news? lol
gts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 05:39 PM   #13
bleedinpurple
Decent college freshman
 
bleedinpurple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: NYC & Phoenix
Posts: 1,982
bleedinpurple has an OK reputation so far
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gts
hey you didn't like the dancing barry news? lol

well, it's that Dancing Barry news that will carry me thru the summer.
lol.
bleedinpurple is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 05:53 PM   #14
gts
Sons of Antartica
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 28,643
gts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginablegts is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedinpurple
well, it's that Dancing Barry news that will carry me thru the summer.
lol.
oh lord i hope not it's getting pretty sad when a fabricated story by a bored poster is all that there is to hold on to...lol
gts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2007, 06:33 PM   #15
SoCalMike
NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
 
SoCalMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Land of 16 NBA Championships
Posts: 23,362
SoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginableSoCalMike is the Michael Jordan of posters with the best reputation imaginable
Default Re: Bill Plascke replies to Kobe's interview (Time to trade Bryant)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedinpurple
ever since I made that request, I've received two pieces of news...
1. Kwame ankle surgery
2. Kobe making noise.

I hereby rescind my request.







SoCalMike is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:
Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:43 AM.




NBA Basketball Forum Key Links:
InsideHoops Home
NBA Rumors
Basketball Blog
NBA Daily Recaps
NBA Videos
Fantasy Basketball
NBA Mock Draft
NBA Free Agents
All-Star Weekend
---
High School Basketball
Streetball
---
InsideHoops Twitter
Search Our Site















Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy