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Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
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Mozart Basketball
Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
Originally Posted by BEAST Griffin
I've been saying this for a long time. And I still believe he was the most important player on the Miami Heat. There's always talks about how Kobe rode on Shaq's tail to win championships but none about Wade. Sure, Wade excelled in the finals, but he still couldn't have done it with a player like Shaq. To be honest, any argument about a player not being able to do it with someone is inane. Just know that Shaq was a huge factor to the Heat.
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new based god
Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
Originally Posted by BEAST Griffin
If I remember correctly, he was second in MVP voting the year they won the championship
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Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
lol get real. Wade was much better in 06.
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Marcus be so Smart
Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
Originally Posted by MetsPackers
If I remember correctly, he was second in MVP voting the year they won the championship
You have a terrible memory then since he wasn't in the top 10 as far as voting went. Wade on the other hand was.
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Heatles = Dynasty
Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
Originally Posted by no pun intended
I've been saying this for a long time. And I still believe he was the most important player on the Miami Heat. There's always talks about how Kobe rode on Shaq's tail to win championships but none about Wade. Sure, Wade excelled in the finals, but he still couldn't have done it with a player like Shaq. To be honest, any argument about a player not being able to do it with someone is inane. Just know that Shaq was a huge factor to the Heat.
#1) Shaq played 10 minutes less per game in Miami because he was already breaking down and had multiple injuries (partly why the Lakers traded him).. and 2) Shaq was injured and out in multiple playoff series and Wade got it done. Here's a reminder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcmgy89_DNs
and here's another reminder:
Playoff PER on title runs
1996 Bulls
Jordan---------26.7
Pippen---------19.4
1998 Bulls
Jordan---------28.1
Pippen---------19.5
2000 Lakers
Shaq-----------30.5
Kobe------------19.3
2001 Lakers
Shaq------------29.7
Kobe------------23.8
2002 Lakers
Shaq------------28.3
Kobe-------------20.5
2006 Heat
Wade------------28.4
Shaq-------------19.8
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Dunking on everybody in the park
Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
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Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
Originally Posted by MetsPackers
If I remember correctly, he was second in MVP voting the year they won the championship
That was '05 the season before.
I wish I could find the direct quote, but on many occasions since the '12 title, Wade has admitted that winning that 1st title was very easy and that it was basically handed to him in comparison to this one. Obviously the presence of Shaq would be a big factor. Also if memory serves me correctly for the first 3 rounds of the '06 playoff Shaq was avg. something like ~20/9.
Last edited by jlip; 07-21-2012 at 11:57 PM.
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Heatles = Dynasty
Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
Originally Posted by Hank
#1) Shaq played 10 minutes less per game in Miami because he was already breaking down and had multiple injuries (partly why the Lakers traded him).. and 2) Shaq was injured and out in multiple playoff series and Wade got it done. Here's a reminder:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcmgy89_DNs
and here's another reminder:
Playoff PER on title runs
1996 Bulls
Jordan---------26.7
Pippen---------19.4
1998 Bulls
Jordan---------28.1
Pippen---------19.5
2000 Lakers
Shaq-----------30.5
Kobe------------19.3
2001 Lakers
Shaq------------29.7
Kobe------------23.8
2002 Lakers
Shaq------------28.3
Kobe-------------20.5
2006 Heat
Wade------------28.4
Shaq-------------19.8
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Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
Originally Posted by MetsPackers
If I remember correctly, he was second in MVP voting the year they won the championship
Wade was top 6 in the MVP voting, I don't believe Shaq even had a vote.
Wade was better but Shaq was more important at least after 2005.
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Heatles = Dynasty
Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
Kobe the stringbean got TROUNCED in the 2004 Finals vs the Pistons vaunted #1 defense and played like total SH!T.. what did he shoot ? 37% for the series or something ? And Detroit creamed the LA Fakers 4 games to 1 and winning their games by an average of 12 points.
The very next season in the the 2005 ECF against those same Pistons and their amazing #1 ranked defense, Wade was a beast shooting 64% for the series and led the team in all areas. The Heat would have easily won the title that year as they matched up well vs the Spurs. Up 3 games to 2 vs Detroit Wade unfortunately got hurt at that point and the Pistons rolled in the final 2 games..
and hell, even Shaq will state he was playing at 40% that year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSoPh7k4lb0
And Wade won playoff series with Shaq hurt and on the bench.
In the 2006 ECF Wade again decimated that Pistons #1 ranked D (and the pistons had a franchise record for wins that year).. and Wade did it with Shaq playing 10 less minutes per game compared to his minutes in LA (as Shaq was not close to the same as he was in LA)
you kobe stans trying to donwplay Wade's dominance those years are hilarious !!
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Kobe Apostle
Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
Originally Posted by Hank
Kobe the stringbean got TROUNCED in the 2004 Finals vs the Pistons vaunted #1 defense and played like total SH!T.. what did he shoot ? 37% for the series or something ? And Detroit creamed the LA Fakers 4 games to 1 and winning their games by an average of 12 points.
The very next season in the the 2005 ECF against those same Pistons and their amazing #1 ranked defense, Wade was a beast shooting 64% for the series and led the team in all areas. The Heat would have easily won the title that year as they matched up well vs the Spurs. Up 3 games to 2 vs Detroit Wade unfortunately got hurt at that point and the Pistons rolled in the final 2 games..
and hell, even Shaq will state he was playing at 40% that year:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSoPh7k4lb0
And Wade won playoff series with Shaq hurt and on the bench.
In the 2006 ECF Wade again decimated that Pistons #1 ranked D (and the pistons had a franchise record for wins that year).. and Wade did it with Shaq playing 10 less minutes per game compared to his minutes in LA (as Shaq was not close to the same as he was in LA)
you kobe stans trying to donwplay Wade's dominance those years are hilarious !!
You downplay Kobe's entire career
Let me guess...You think Wade > Kobe all-time, right?
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Heatles = Dynasty
Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
You downplay Kobe's entire career
Let me guess...You think Wade > Kobe all-time, right?
I don't start threads on it though. The fact you guys do and as a result have been TOTALLY schooled after the fact shows how insecure you are.
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#ItsFeedingTime
Re: Shaquille O'Neals impact on the Miami Heat
Originally Posted by Deuce Bigalow
are you really trying to say what Gasol did a few years ago wasn't elite? Why is it blasphemous to say Gasol had better years than Stock? Get bent, fake Lakers fan.
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